[nabs-l] accessible pedestrian signals APS

[Jorge Paez]

I thought it wasn't supposed to be enforced till like 2012?


On May 2, 2011, at 7:14 PM, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> George,
> Actually the ACB seems as mad as ever; yes they won in the court; but the government has not produced accessible currency yet.
> Some do not feel the decision will be enforced.
> 
> Ashley
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Paez
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible pedestrian signals APS
> 
> I believe the national is officially against expanding the use of APS.
> 
> As far as accessible currency, didn't the ACB already close that case in court?
> ACB V. US trasury 2009 or something like that?
> 
> 
> On May 2, 2011, at 6:36 PM, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am on the ACB list and as usual with controversial topics, they are taking the Accessible pedestrian signal and accessible currency
>> topics and really trashing the NFB and they don’t know the real positions and facts.
>> They think NFB opposes both.
>> I may not tell them as they will not listen, but what are the positions? Nfb is not opposed to APS fully.
>> 
>> What is the national position? Any late resolutions?  Also, what do you think and when have you found them helpful or not helpful?
>> Personally, I’d like the APS at intersections where you have to press the walk button as a pedestrian.  We cannot see the walk signal to know when our time starts; you have to press the button in order to tell the computer that you are a pedestrian and need a walk phase to cross the street.  I think these are called actuated signals.  These streets favor drivers, not pedestrians; the busier streets get more traffic time.  That change of the signal is activated by a computer.
>> 
>> At fixed time streets, those streets with a set time to cross, without a button are easier IMO and you got sufficient traffic cues to hear to cross.
>> I also think some streets are more complex now a days with more turn lanes and islands, and a accessible signal would be great.  Some signals even talk to you and count down the time left in the walk interval.
>> 
>> So I guess I see APS as a benefit  when you have insufficient traffic cues to cross the street.  I’ve tried to learn how to cross T streets, and those are confusing too; maybe the APS would help there too.  No parallel traffic on T-shaped streets.
>> 
>> Look forward to your thoughts; I know NFB modified their position on APS, so I’m not sure what it is now.  I certainly don’t want them everywhere, but in several cases with complex traffic patterns I can see their use.
>> 
>> Ashley
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