[nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material

Tue May 3 01:19:46 UTC 2011

I have jaws 12 but as you said, a huge limitation to the place mark feature 
is one per document and that doesn't help much when studying since the text 
is over 20 pages per file which is a chapter.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:09 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material

Also, if you have JAWS 12, and you need to mark your place just for the
moment while you go somewhere else in the document, you can use ALT, windows
k to mark your place and windows k to return to it. I wish that FS would
allow for multiple place markers like the BrailleNote does.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Perrault" <iperrault at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material

>
>      Hi All,
> A tip: If I'm reading an e-text book on my laptop with JAWS, and I don't
> want to lose my place, I mark my place by putting *****, then saving the
> Word document since the book is in Word usually, then when I want to
> reread
> it, I just do a find and hit *****. I just came up with that method on my
> own, and it's five stars, not three as JAWS says.
> Ian
> Ian
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:50 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> Oh, maybe the website for the publisher or book will explain the topics in
> the book.  I'll check.  Some books have a website with interactive
> quizzes,
> study guides, etc.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:28 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> Yes, you're right! So, let me give you another option.  If you
> read a textbook online, usually the Web site will offer a form
> field where you can search for topics in the book.  Although we
> don't use it a lot, we can get all our textbooks for class on
> either www.classzone.com or on the publisher's Web site, either
> for science and math: www.phsschool.com or for English:
> www.glencoe.com.  If you're using JAWS and get your textbooks
> online, hit insert F 5 for the select a form field list.  See if
> there's a "search book" or "search index" or something like that
> in the list.  If so, try that!
>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:42:34 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> Chris,
> I use a computer; but as I said to find a text segment, you got
> to know the
> words exactly you're looking for.  If you have a variation on it,
> that won't
> help.  Plus some stuff is probably just in the index/glossary,
> like
> definitions.  Often the index is not part of my e-text and even
> if it is,
> its so big that using a computer may not be practical to find it.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:55 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> I don't know whether you use a computer or notetaker to read
> E-texts, but if you have JAWS on a computer or use a Braille-Note
> BT, you can use a find command to find a text string, or
> word/phrase in a large document like a textbook.  On a
> Braille-Note, hit space with F for the find command.  Then it
> will ask you, "Search forward or back?" If you want to search for
> something that you know is further into the text than you
> currently are, het f for forward, and to search for something
> before the place where you are, hit b for back.  Then, it will
> prompt "Find?" Type the text string you want to search for and
> hit Enter.  If it finds the string you're searching for, it will
> put your cursor under that string.  If you use JAWS on your
> computer, I think the find command is Alt F3, but don't quote me
> on that.  I'll have to check and get back to you on that.  If
> there's someone else on the list who knows what the Find command
> on JAWS is, please let us know.  Hope that helps!
>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 May 2011 00:31:32 -0400
> Subject: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
>
> Hi all,
>
> College texts are full of words and examples.  Frustrating when
> you cannot skim through especially when you need the highlights
> for a test.
> I take notes when reading.  But my notes don?™t always amount to
> what the professor tells us to study for the test, if they tell
> us.
>
> So what do you do when the professor has a study guide?
> Some students take it and jot down the coresponding pages to the
> study topics and study those pages.
> How do you use it?
> Sometimes professors give a list of terms/concepts to study or a
> list of questions to guide your preparation.  My communication
> professor outlined on the board what concepts we needed to know
> for our final.
> But here?™s the thing.  I cannot skim the text or look up words.
> My notes may or may not have them.  Even if they do, its still
> looking for a needle in a haystack when reviewing for finals!  So
> I?™ve usually had to ask a reader; they act as my eyes and look
> in the index for the key words or skim for the key words or
> headings in the chapter.
>
> For me, I usually use audio whenever possible.  But even with
> e-texts, I cannot skim because I don?™t know the exact phrase
> and without that the computer does Not know what to look for;
> also
> it is divided in to chapters and I cannot search across chapters.
> Another thing, how do you work with open book exams?
> Do you have a reader there and they look up any info from the
> book? That is what I?™ve done.
> Again, openbook  tests let you use it as a reference tool, but
> that is hard for us.
>
> So any tips for studying or ?œskimming??would be good.  How
> can you direct a reader to actually skim?  Usually they will read
> too much to me rather than just the main paragraph of the topic;
> generally under the main headings I find the introduction to the
> concept and smaller headings tell you details/examples.
>
>
> Ashley
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