[nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material

Tue May 3 01:41:05 UTC 2011

Do you find the MSWord version of bookmarks kind of cumbersome to use?

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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material

>I have jaws 12 but as you said, a huge limitation to the place mark feature
> is one per document and that doesn't help much when studying since the 
> text
> is over 20 pages per file which is a chapter.
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:09 PM
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> Also, if you have JAWS 12, and you need to mark your place just for the
> moment while you go somewhere else in the document, you can use ALT, 
> windows
> k to mark your place and windows k to return to it. I wish that FS would
> allow for multiple place markers like the BrailleNote does.
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> From: "Ian Perrault" <iperrault at hotmail.com>
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> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:01 PM
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>>      Hi All,
>> A tip: If I'm reading an e-text book on my laptop with JAWS, and I don't
>> want to lose my place, I mark my place by putting *****, then saving the
>> Word document since the book is in Word usually, then when I want to
>> reread
>> it, I just do a find and hit *****. I just came up with that method on my
>> own, and it's five stars, not three as JAWS says.
>> Ian
>> Ian
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>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:50 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
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>> Oh, maybe the website for the publisher or book will explain the topics 
>> in
>> the book.  I'll check.  Some books have a website with interactive
>> quizzes,
>> study guides, etc.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:28 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
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>> Yes, you're right! So, let me give you another option.  If you
>> read a textbook online, usually the Web site will offer a form
>> field where you can search for topics in the book.  Although we
>> don't use it a lot, we can get all our textbooks for class on
>> either www.classzone.com or on the publisher's Web site, either
>> for science and math: www.phsschool.com or for English:
>> www.glencoe.com.  If you're using JAWS and get your textbooks
>> online, hit insert F 5 for the select a form field list.  See if
>> there's a "search book" or "search index" or something like that
>> in the list.  If so, try that!
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 2 May 2011 17:42:34 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
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>> Chris,
>> I use a computer; but as I said to find a text segment, you got
>> to know the
>> words exactly you're looking for.  If you have a variation on it,
>> that won't
>> help.  Plus some stuff is probably just in the index/glossary,
>> like
>> definitions.  Often the index is not part of my e-text and even
>> if it is,
>> its so big that using a computer may not be practical to find it.
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:55 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
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>> I don't know whether you use a computer or notetaker to read
>> E-texts, but if you have JAWS on a computer or use a Braille-Note
>> BT, you can use a find command to find a text string, or
>> word/phrase in a large document like a textbook.  On a
>> Braille-Note, hit space with F for the find command.  Then it
>> will ask you, "Search forward or back?" If you want to search for
>> something that you know is further into the text than you
>> currently are, het f for forward, and to search for something
>> before the place where you are, hit b for back.  Then, it will
>> prompt "Find?" Type the text string you want to search for and
>> hit Enter.  If it finds the string you're searching for, it will
>> put your cursor under that string.  If you use JAWS on your
>> computer, I think the find command is Alt F3, but don't quote me
>> on that.  I'll have to check and get back to you on that.  If
>> there's someone else on the list who knows what the Find command
>> on JAWS is, please let us know.  Hope that helps!
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 2 May 2011 00:31:32 -0400
>> Subject: [nabs-l] studying, skimming and reference material
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> College texts are full of words and examples.  Frustrating when
>> you cannot skim through especially when you need the highlights
>> for a test.
>> I take notes when reading.  But my notes don?™t always amount to
>> what the professor tells us to study for the test, if they tell
>> us.
>>
>> So what do you do when the professor has a study guide?
>> Some students take it and jot down the coresponding pages to the
>> study topics and study those pages.
>> How do you use it?
>> Sometimes professors give a list of terms/concepts to study or a
>> list of questions to guide your preparation.  My communication
>> professor outlined on the board what concepts we needed to know
>> for our final.
>> But here?™s the thing.  I cannot skim the text or look up words.
>> My notes may or may not have them.  Even if they do, its still
>> looking for a needle in a haystack when reviewing for finals!  So
>> I?™ve usually had to ask a reader; they act as my eyes and look
>> in the index for the key words or skim for the key words or
>> headings in the chapter.
>>
>> For me, I usually use audio whenever possible.  But even with
>> e-texts, I cannot skim because I don?™t know the exact phrase
>> and without that the computer does Not know what to look for;
>> also
>> it is divided in to chapters and I cannot search across chapters.
>> Another thing, how do you work with open book exams?
>> Do you have a reader there and they look up any info from the
>> book? That is what I?™ve done.
>> Again, openbook  tests let you use it as a reference tool, but
>> that is hard for us.
>>
>> So any tips for studying or ?œskimming??would be good.  How
>> can you direct a reader to actually skim?  Usually they will read
>> too much to me rather than just the main paragraph of the topic;
>> generally under the main headings I find the introduction to the
>> concept and smaller headings tell you details/examples.
>>
>>
>> Ashley
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