[nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others

Jorge Paez computertechjorgepaez at gmail.com
Sun May 29 17:36:17 UTC 2011 

I think a lot of people may have done it but no one was as high profile as her.
You have to realize news papers covered her story,
but they didn't cover the others.


On May 29, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Josh Gregory wrote:

> So wait, um...  interesting.  So that's not how it happened? The textbooks make it seem that way...  I mean Parks not giving up her seat being the first one.
> Josh
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 29 May 2011 10:21:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others
> 
> Actually, according to David Paterson, recently Governor of new York, Rosa
> Parks wasn't the first person actually to refuse to go to the back of the
> bus.  Earlier that year, another African-american lady would have tested the
> system but she had had a child out of wedlock and so NAACP chose not to make
> her the test case for the segregation law, the mores of the time being
> different than they are today.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Josh Gregory
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 9:07 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others
> 
> Yeah we're learning about that in history (it's almost the end of the school
> year, yay!) and it's sad what they did to people.  The Little Rock Nine,
> does anybody remember that one? Well, there's a lot of history to show
> that...  African Americans were segregated and as so, treated very badly.
> Rosa Parks was the first to challenge that.  I think...  but that's
> offtopic.  I guess my point is: While I knew about the history of African
> Americans, I didn't know that us blind people went through the same things.
> Josh
> PS: Sorry if that was just a bit offtopic.
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 29 May 2011 10:00:18 -0600
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others
> 
> Josh,
> As sad as it is, it happens all the time.  Gandhi, Martin Luther King, and
> so many others who've fought against the status quo get all sorts of
> resistance.  In terms of ability, I think Jernigan was right up there with
> those guys...or pretty dang close!  We're lucky noone acted on their death
> threats against him, like they did with dr.
> King
> and Gandhi.
> Warmly,
> Kirt
> 
> On 5/28/11, Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Still, wow, that's...  well...  I think, outrageous.  A man of  such high
> respect can be hated just as much...  enough to the  point of receiving
> death threats.  Interesting and scary.
> Josh
> 
> sent from my Apex
> Email: joshkart12 at gmail.com
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 28 May 2011 20:43:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others
> 
> Oh yes -- as president of the NFB, he was a symbol of the  Movement and, as
> such, was perceived as standing for a philosophy that threatened  the status
> quo (including the self-proclaimed exalted status of various  agencies for
> the blind).  The hostility was often palpable and, make no  mistake, it took
> its toll on the man.  Whether he'd ever have admitted it or not,  it
> bothered  him a lot to receive such hostility that was almost pathological
> in its  extremity.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf  Of Josh Gregory
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:20 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others
> 
> Hi, such a respectable person as Dr.  Journigan receiving death  threats?
> To  me that is unheard of that such...  um...  deplorable things  could
> happen to  us blind people.
> Josh
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jedi <loneblindjedi at samobile.net
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 28 May 2011 22:17:13 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in others
> 
> Federationists have received death threats in the past; i can  recall from
> my  studies that Rammi Rabby and Dr.  Jernigan did.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Jedi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 28, 2011, at 12:47 AM, "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com
> wrote:
> 
> Darian:
> 
> WE of NFB often compare ourselves to African-americans because  we
> consider  ourselves, like them, to be a minority group within the larger
> society.
> Certainly, no one would argue that blind people were attacked  with
> fire-hoses or lynched while trying to exercise their rights.  I  do know of
> plenty of instances when blind persons were arrested for refusing  to move
> from exit-row seating to which they were legitimately assigned on  airplanes
> and I know of one incident wherein a blind person was severely  beaten for
> being a NFB member.
> 
> I believe there's a bit about this comparison in Dr.
> Jernigan's
> 1976 banquet
> speech, "Of visions and Vultures".
> 
> I appreciate your question to clarify the comparison.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf  Of Darian Smith
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:23 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Security in ourselves, acceptance in  others
> 
> Mike:
> African-Americans/blacks (however one choosses to term  themselves)would
> not have been too keen on the idea based upon how  they were  treated by
> whites  up to that time.
>  It is curious that how    african-americans were treated is
> always
> one of the first ways we as blind  people choose to make our  comparisons
> in our struggle  for first-class citizanship.  I wonder,  were  blind people
> beatin and hosed down when they peacefully protest  the unjust  ways they
> were treated? Were  they lybnched?  Can we safely  make those  comparisons?
> unless  I am missing something (I could be,  and it wouldn't be  the first
> or  last time I have), we  have some  similarities with regards to  civil
> rights,  but largely our histories  were quite different and  the scars,
> deaths,risks  were felt on largely  different levels.
> 
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