[nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility

Tue May 31 23:46:47 UTC 2011

Chris,
First, the iPhone is not universal. Though it's on Verizon and AT&T, 
people with Sprint, T-Mobile or other carriers must look at alternatives.
Second, though VoiceOver on the iPhone doesn't cost anything beyond the 
cost of the phone, you definitley still pay a premium. The iPhone 4 
16GB, for instance, costs $199 with both AT&T and Verizon. Many Android 
handsets, however, cost $99 or less on contract. Even with the cost of 
Mobile Accessibility, numerous Android devices are still les-expensive 
than the iPhone.
Just my thoughts.
Best regards,
Matt

On 5/31/2011 6:54 PM, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
> I don't think it is.  Why pay when you can get the
> * total accessibility out of the box when you buy your phone? The 
> iPhone is pretty much universal as far as carriers, so my question is: 
> why are we even deliberating on this decision? On the Android, you 
> have to pay for accessibility, where on the iPhone you can get 
> accessibility free and out of the box.  Um...  don't we want to spend 
> less money, not more?
>
> Chris
>
> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>
> --- Sent from my BrailleNote
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Liz Bottner <liziswhatis at hotmail.com
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:52:41 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility
>
> Yes, I do realize this.  I believe that my point still stands: I pay the
> money and can access what MA will let me access, regardless of who's 
> fault
> it was that increased accessibility isn't available.  The bottom line 
> is that
> I am still having to pay extra for accessibility, something that comes
> inherent on Apple devices.  It really is a catch-22.
>
> Liz Bottner
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Jorge Paez
> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:09 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility
>
> Liz:
> Just a quick note:
> the apps are all developed by Mobile Accessibility--but the fact that the
> screenreader doesn't work that well outside those apps is rather Google's
> fault.
>
>
> On May 25, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Liz Bottner wrote:
>
> What are some things related to usability and convenience that you 
> give up
> in using an Android? I am thinking of possibly taking the plunge and
> getting
> an Android, having used an iPhone prior.  I have had very little 
> experience
> using Android, and will say that I was frustrated in doing so.  If I have
> to
> give up a lot and find that my use of the phone and its features 
> really is
> limited, I may not go for it.  I really wish Google would make
> accessibility
> a priority.  I would love choice in which mobile platform I can use.  I'm
> possibly also spoiled in that I don't think I should have to pay extra 
> for
> accessibility, (following Apple's example), especially if the extra 
> that I
> would pay only allows me access to a specific suite of applications 
> deemed
> accessible by one developer/company and I still cannot have full 
> access to
> the phone.  Lastly, I am wondering at this point if Android is not more
> accessible to the low vision user than it is to one who is totally blind?
>
> Just my thoughts...
>
> Liz Bottner
> Guiding Eyes Graduate Council
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Ignasi Cambra
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:17 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility
>
> In my experience, Android is truly interesting for experimenting at this
> point, and with some work and trying and failing many things can be done.
> I
> have tried both Talkback and Mobile Accessibility and, to be honest, none
> of
> the two provide anything close to the experience you will get on an
> iPhone.
> If you need a fully functional phone and you need to accomplish things
> quickly and efficiently, I would say Android is not ready yet.  If you 
> want
> to try something new and you are willing to give up on some usability and
> convenience, try getting an Android phone and see how it goes.  If you 
> are
> planning on using Mobile Accessibility I would recommend that you get a
> touch screen phone.
>
> IC
> On May 24, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Jorge Paez wrote:
>
> Hi all:
> Just wondering,
> my time is coming for a chance to upgrade on AT&T and I am interested in
> the Android platform.
> What experiences have you had with the platform/screenreader?
> Is TalkBack any good?
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Jorge
>
>
>
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