[nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility

Tue May 31 23:55:48 UTC 2011

What about Mobile Accessibility upgrades? What if a new version of Android comes out and you need to wait for months until Mobile Accessibility catches up? And all this without all the features on your Android phone being fully accessible...
In my opinion, Android will only be at the level of iOS if the free screen reading solutions available right now mature.
On May 31, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Matt McCubbin wrote:

> Chris,
> First, the iPhone is not universal. Though it's on Verizon and AT&T, people with Sprint, T-Mobile or other carriers must look at alternatives.
> Second, though VoiceOver on the iPhone doesn't cost anything beyond the cost of the phone, you definitley still pay a premium. The iPhone 4 16GB, for instance, costs $199 with both AT&T and Verizon. Many Android handsets, however, cost $99 or less on contract. Even with the cost of Mobile Accessibility, numerous Android devices are still les-expensive than the iPhone.
> Just my thoughts.
> Best regards,
> Matt
> 
> On 5/31/2011 6:54 PM, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
>> I don't think it is.  Why pay when you can get the
>> * total accessibility out of the box when you buy your phone? The iPhone is pretty much universal as far as carriers, so my question is: why are we even deliberating on this decision? On the Android, you have to pay for accessibility, where on the iPhone you can get accessibility free and out of the box.  Um...  don't we want to spend less money, not more?
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> "A loss of sight, never a loss of vision!" (Camp Abilities motto)
>> 
>> --- Sent from my BrailleNote
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Liz Bottner <liziswhatis at hotmail.com
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:52:41 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility
>> 
>> Yes, I do realize this.  I believe that my point still stands: I pay the
>> money and can access what MA will let me access, regardless of who's fault
>> it was that increased accessibility isn't available.  The bottom line is that
>> I am still having to pay extra for accessibility, something that comes
>> inherent on Apple devices.  It really is a catch-22.
>> 
>> Liz Bottner
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Jorge Paez
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:09 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility
>> 
>> Liz:
>> Just a quick note:
>> the apps are all developed by Mobile Accessibility--but the fact that the
>> screenreader doesn't work that well outside those apps is rather Google's
>> fault.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 25, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Liz Bottner wrote:
>> 
>> What are some things related to usability and convenience that you give up
>> in using an Android? I am thinking of possibly taking the plunge and
>> getting
>> an Android, having used an iPhone prior.  I have had very little experience
>> using Android, and will say that I was frustrated in doing so.  If I have
>> to
>> give up a lot and find that my use of the phone and its features really is
>> limited, I may not go for it.  I really wish Google would make
>> accessibility
>> a priority.  I would love choice in which mobile platform I can use.  I'm
>> possibly also spoiled in that I don't think I should have to pay extra for
>> accessibility, (following Apple's example), especially if the extra that I
>> would pay only allows me access to a specific suite of applications deemed
>> accessible by one developer/company and I still cannot have full access to
>> the phone.  Lastly, I am wondering at this point if Android is not more
>> accessible to the low vision user than it is to one who is totally blind?
>> 
>> Just my thoughts...
>> 
>> Liz Bottner
>> Guiding Eyes Graduate Council
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>> liziswhatis at hotmail.com
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Ignasi Cambra
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:17 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Android and Mobile Accessibility
>> 
>> In my experience, Android is truly interesting for experimenting at this
>> point, and with some work and trying and failing many things can be done.
>> I
>> have tried both Talkback and Mobile Accessibility and, to be honest, none
>> of
>> the two provide anything close to the experience you will get on an
>> iPhone.
>> If you need a fully functional phone and you need to accomplish things
>> quickly and efficiently, I would say Android is not ready yet.  If you want
>> to try something new and you are willing to give up on some usability and
>> convenience, try getting an Android phone and see how it goes.  If you are
>> planning on using Mobile Accessibility I would recommend that you get a
>> touch screen phone.
>> 
>> IC
>> On May 24, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Jorge Paez wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> Just wondering,
>> my time is coming for a chance to upgrade on AT&T and I am interested in
>> the Android platform.
>> What experiences have you had with the platform/screenreader?
>> Is TalkBack any good?
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Jorge
>> 
>> 
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