[nabs-l] Blindness vs. Other Minority Groups

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sun Nov 13 19:19:59 UTC 2011


Hi Joshua and everyone,

I am in 8th grade and am mainstreamed in the public school system 
here in Carroll County, Maryland.  I'm also an anchor on my 
school's TV-LIKE morning announcements program.  So, one day 
during Meet the Blind Month when I was on the program as an 
anchor, I made an announcement on the air regarding Meet the 
Blind Month and its purpose, to "educate the sighted public about 
the truth about blindness, and our real capabilities." I also 
encouraged them to ask me any questions they had about blindness, 
no matter what it was.  I wouldn't be offended.  I closed the 
announcement with a slogan that my TVI thought up; "I encourage 
all of you to open your mind and meet the blind!" This has 
started a great opportunity for me to educate my peers, and for 
them to openly ask me questions.  My family and I also do a 
program for my teachers each year, in which we do a blindness 
simulations where the teachers have to make a peanut butter and 
jelly sandwich blindfolded.  This also helps them get an glimpse 
into my world, if you will.  I'd love to hear what you guys did 
for Meet the Blind Month, if anything!

Chris

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 17:59:21 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Blindness vs.  Other Minority Groups

I actually did a presentation at my college, for "Meet the 
Blind,"
month where I showed everyone how to guide a blind person, and I
taught them the blindness courtesy rules, from the NFB.
I'd encourage all students here, to ask if you can do the same 
thing,
at your colleges.
Blessings, Joshua

On 11/4/11, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
 Hi all,
 These are all great points.  Thanks for humoring me with this
 discussion.  I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks it 
important.
 As some of you may know, there was a time not too long ago when
 African Americans were perceived to be less intelligent than 
white
 Americans.  In fact, there was a brief scientific movement 
called "race
 science" to try and quantify this intelligence difference and 
link it
 to racial differences in brain structure.  Of course, this 
belief has
 been heavily challenged and is no longer popular.  Additionally,
 psychologists have identified specific factors in the social
 environment that can lead to racial differences in performance 
on
 standardized tests that were once mistaken for differences in
 intelligence.  For example, questions on IQ tests are sometimes 
worded
 in a biased fashion to favor people from white American 
backgrounds,
 and sometimes fears about being stereotyped can cause people to
 perform worse on tests than they are actually capable of.  
Because
 African Americans were stereotyped as less intelligent, this
 stereotype itself can lead to poor test performance.
 As we all know, there are lots of beliefs out there, among the 
sighted
 public, blindness professionals and blind people ourselves, 
about the
 inferiority of blindness and the many deficits and lack of 
ability we
 have.  We know that a big part of our inequality comes from the 
social
 environment-parents and teachers who have low expectations, lack 
of
 instruction in Braille and other blindness skills, and lack of
 accessibility-and only a small part of it comes directly from 
the
 condition of blindness.  I dream that in time, hopefully in our
 lifetime, this will become the widely accepted view, and the 
majority
 of the sighted public will understand that we can be equally
 successful as our sighted counterparts under the right social
 conditions, just like most people (at least most educated 
people) now
 understand that African Americans are just as intellectually 
capable
 as whites if the social environment supports their success.
 We definitely have a long way to go in this regard and it will 
be
 difficult to drive this point home.  As others have said, some 
sighted
 people just don't know what our capabilities are.  I think that 
in our
 culture there is a lot of focus on vision as a major sense, and 
people
 assume that vision loss is invariably a deficit.  It explains 
why
 literature geared toward parents of blind children often 
highlights
 the fact that 80% of what sighted children learn is learned 
visually,
 and it explains why blindness professionals are often so 
unwilling to
 teach Braille and prefer to focus on vision-based literacy.  
People
 have trouble believing that all the other senses combined plus 
some
 mental effort can make up for loss of vision.  People's beliefs 
about
 the primacy of vision for functioning are powerful, often 
unconscious,
 and are rarely challenged-because we are a minority, and because 
these
 beliefs are difficult to challenge.  Truly understanding how 
blind
 people function requires some creative thinking and mental
 flexibility-something I frankly don't think some people possess 
or are
 willing to engage.  And unfortunately, it is hard to get people 
on
 board for the environmental modifications we need to be
 equal-accessibility etc.-unless they truly believe that these 
changes
 will give us equal opportunity.
 Jedi, you make some interesting points about how we should start
 standing up to the sighted.  I agree that we are often 
conditioned to
 accept treatment we shouldn't be accepting, and that the errant
 behavior of the sighted so often goes unchallenged.  The problem 
is
 that I fear that attempts to stand up for ourselves will be
 misinterpreted.  The treatment we get differs from treatment to 
other
 minority groups in that we are rarely treated with violence or
 outright hostility, but so often discriminated against under an
 illusion of kindness.  Too often, an honest response to this 
kindness
 is simply shrugged off as rudeness or ingratitude instead of 
really
 being given proper attention.  For example, when I was a 
teenager, I
 often refused offers of "help" from people I didn't know well 
and
 would let people know I didn't like it when they grabbed or 
manhandled
 me around.  I am told that several of my schoolmates thought of 
me as a
 b**.  I don't think they ever actually thought about changing 
their
 behavior toward me, but just wrote me off as a rude person.  So 
I
 definitely think we should make an effort to communicate frankly 
and
 directly with the sighted, but I'm unsure of how to do it in a 
way
 that is accepted in dialogue rather than just dismissed.  I 
would be
 interested in learning more about the dialogue strategies you 
mention.
 Best,
 Arielle

 On 11/4/11, Jedi <loneblindjedi at samobile.net> wrote:
 David,

 With all due respect, I think that's exactly the logic that 
rewards us
 for keeping our mouths shut thus maintaining the status quo.  
When we
 say to ourselves "Sighted people don't mean to be malicious," we
 somehow send ourselves, and each other, the second half of the 
message
 which ultimately says "So lay off," "No need to worry about it," 
or
 ""It's no big deal." If that works for you, great.  But what 
about those
 of us whom such logic doesn't work for?

 I tried to soothe myself with the notion that the sighted just 
don't
 know better.  And for me, that made the problem all the worse 
because I
 started to think that there was something wrong with me for 
feeling
 upset by what the sighted person had said or done to begin with.  
I
 started questioning the validity of my own experience as the 
person to
 whom ignorant comments are made and ignorant actions are pressed 
upon.
 Like I said in a previous post, I had to rearrange my thinking 
or else
 go nuts.  *grin*

 Yes, the sighted don't intend to be malicious, but the fact is 
that
 what they say and do is still harmful.  Humans never meant to be
 malicious toward Earth, but our actions over the last hundred 
years or
 so have badly depleted our natural resources and will continue 
to do so
 until we realize that, despite our lack of bad intensions, we're
 harming something that's as much a part of ourselves as 
anything.  I
 hope the analogy is not too remote.

 My bottom line is this.  I think it's time to stop excusing the 
sighted
 when they treat us in ways that they themselves would never wish 
to be
 treated.  I think it's time we start alerting ourselves and the 
rest of
 the world to the fact that our interpersonal relationships with 
the
 sighted public haven't changed as much as we would like them to, 
and
 that these interpersonal (and intercultural) relationships are, 
to a
 large extent, a huge part of why we have such a high 
unemployment rate,
 why we experience discrimination in our recreational and 
personal
 lives, and why the public still largely considers us a 
non-entity in a
 lot of ways (I think internet accessibility is a great example 
of this).

 Yes, what i'm suggesting is, i suppose, quite radical.  But I 
think we
 can have our cake and eat it, too.  I think it's possible to 
develop
 excellent interpersonal and intercultural relations with the 
sighted
 thereby getting our basic societal needs met.  But the first 
step is
 realizing that nothing is going to change unless we intend that 
change
 to happen and take the steps to start it.

 Here's what I think we could do to get the ball rolling.  I 
think we
 need to start publishing another round of Kernel books.  I 
realize we
 still have a bunch left over from the last set we did, but they 
are out
 of date in that they don't address some of the newer issues that 
have
 cropped up in the last ten years or so.  And frankly, we need 
fresher
 faces in these stories.  we need more stories from the current
 generation because that's who will be reading these stories on 
the
 sighted end of things.  I'm willing to write for the kernel 
books.
 anyone with me?

 The second thing we need to do is to formally teach ourselves 
how to
 communicate more effectively with the sighted.  Last time, i 
talked
 about educating through dialogue rather than dialoguing through
 education.  How is that done, anyway? Well, there are a few ways 
of
 going about it and there are some amazing groups and 
institutions who
 specialize in teaching people how to communicate based on their
 experience.  I immediately think of the Swil Kanim Foundation, 
the
 Institute of Cultural Affairs, and the Center for studies of the
 Person.  All of these entities have trained facilitators who can 
help
 groups of us learn how to communicate our experiences more 
effectively;
 we could potentially hold encounter groups during our next NFB
 convention in Dallas.  The groups would be small to start out 
with;
 maybe twenty to fifty in each.  But it's a start.  
Alternatively, the
 Federation could start a project wherein some of us volunteer to 
train
 as facilitators through one of these entities and then go around 
from
 affiliate to affiliate, chapter to chapter, and have these 
encounter
 groups locally.  What would come out of either approach is a 
group of
 people who are more willing to be truthful with the sighted and 
can do
 so in a way that's honoring to everyone concerned.

 Anyway, these are some thoughts I've been playing with for some 
time,
 and I'm willing to participate in a project like this, but i'm 
going to
 need some help.I've said it before, but I'm interested in 
hearing from
 anyone who's also interested in this kind of thing and who think 
we
 could come up with some crazy way to get it going.

 Respectfully,
 Jedi

 Original message:
 Arielle:

 I think that it is in part that we are a small minority, but the
 biggest factor is people's ignorance about the capabilities of 
the
 blind.  When someone shuts their eyes, they don't see how they 
could
 do anything, (pun partially intended.)  Without training -- 
which
 they don't have, they can't imagine how we get around etc.

 I don't think their statements are malicious, just ignorant!

 Dave

 At 10:09 PM 10/31/2011, you wrote:
 Warning-this topic has the potential to start a heated debate, 
but I
 also think it is an interesting and important topic for us as 
blind
 people to think about.
 Lately I have been thinking a lot about how the problems faced 
by the
 blind are similar to or different from those faced by other 
minority
 groups in this country historically and in the present.  More 
than
 that, I have been thinking about how the general public sees us 
as a
 group in comparison to how they view other minority groups.  It 
has
 struck me that oftentimes members of the general public treat us 
in
 discriminatory ways or stereotype us without even considering 
that
 this kind of treatment resembles stereotyping and discrimination
 against other minority groups.
 Let me give a concrete example.  In his book Freedom for the 
Blind, Jim
 Omvig writes of a time when he was directing a training center 
and a
 female staff member at the center commented, "You do your job so 
well,
 sometimes I forget you're blind!" Seeing the teachable moment, 
Mr.
 Omvig brought up this incident to his students during a 
philosophy
 class, and to illustrate his point he said to the woman, "You 
are such
 a good teacher, sometimes I forget you're a woman!" From what I
 recall, the staff member got a bit upset and insisted that "no, 
what I
 said about you being blind was very different from what you said 
about
 my being a woman.  I was just trying to give you a compliment!"
 Now, as blind people most of us understand the problem with her
 comment-the implication that being blind must not be very good, 
so
 someone who does a good job isn't like other blind people.  To 
me this
 sounds like the same problem as making the analogous comment to 
a
 woman-but she didn't see it that way.  Why not? Is there a 
difference
 here?
 I have often been quite frustrated when people I know and
 trust-friends or family members, who have very liberal views 
about
 race, would never utter a racial slur or support discrimination
 against racial minorities, women, gays etc.  who nonetheless 
have no
 qualms about saying negative things about blindness.  Like 
saying blind
 people are all worse than the sighted at something, or that 
blind
 people are more dependent or less successful than the sighted, 
etc.
 They will sometimes say these things to my face and don't 
understand
 why I don't like to hear these things.  Sometimes family members 
will
 make comments comparing me favorably to other blind people.  
They think
 they are giving me compliments, and fail to understand that I 
don't
 want to hear negative things spoken about the blind as a 
collective.
 Yet these same people would never tell an African American that 
they
 are "smart for a black person" etc.  I remember during the 
protests
 against the Blindness film in 2008, I was perplexed by how many 
people
 just didn't get it, and didn't see what harm the film could 
do-and yet
 an analogous film where everyone developed black skin or female
 anatomy with such dire consequences would never be accepted in 
our
 modern society.  And finally, in my research, I have observed 
that the
 college students in my experiments have no problem saying on a 
survey
 that the blind are much less competent than the sighted, yet 
would
 never say such things directly about another minority group-in 
fact,
 lots of fancy indirect measures have been developed to tap those
 attitudes because people nowadays are so unwilling to admit 
their
 prejudices, unless it's toward the blind.
 So, what's up? Are stereotypes about the blind somehow more 
accurate
 than stereotypes about ethnic minorities? Is discrimination 
against
 the blind somehow more justified? Or is it just that we are such 
a
 small group that we haven't developed the same history, had the 
same
 scale of civil rights activism, etc.  to raise people's 
awareness? Do
 you guys think we deserve the same considerations as other 
minorities
 in this country? If not, am I missing something? If so, how do 
we get
 members of the public to see this?
 Also, as an aside, I'm curious to hear from those of you who are 
"dual
 minorities" being both blind and a member of a minority group in 
this
 country (ethnicity-wise, or a different group like GLBT, 
uncommon
 religious beliefs etc.) How do you think your two identities are
 similar? Different? Do you feel they interact with one another?
 I look forward to the discussion.
 Best,
 Arielle


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