[nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Sat Nov 26 17:08:40 UTC 2011

Hope,
Oh, I wasn't aware you could substitute a bluetooth keyboard for the touch 
screen; I thought you could type on the keyboard but still needed the 
screen.
So you're saying you can use the keyboard with voice over, and operate it as 
you would a computer then?
How many cells is your display? Wish I had one! they're so expensive!
Good to know and maybe I might get an ipad or Ipod touch then.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Hope Paulos
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:52 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

I have a Seika braille display and a netbook and it works great. ALso have
an ipod touch and am thinking about getting an iphone. You don't have to use
the touch screen if you have a bluetooth keyboard. You just have to remember
the keystrokes as you would on a PC. I'd go with the IOS over blindness
products every time if I had the chance.
Hope Paulos
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

> But I like the blindness notetaker because I can read and write braille on 
> it. I think using a
> touch screen would require a lot of memory and spatial awareness. I 
> already have to memorize where things like end, send and okay are on my 
> basic cell phone! But if an IOS devices works for someone go ahead; it’s a 
> lot more portable than a heavy braille notetaker.
> I wonder what braille displays you can use with those IPhones and IOS 
> devices.
> Its cool that we have smaller, portable braille displays and keyboards 
> now.
> How neat to have those options. The only braille displays I saw were the 
> large 40 cell and 80 cell displays, although I am aware of smaller ones.
>
> Ashley
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Humberto Avila
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:56 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>
> Yes, I think that is why some many blind people are using iPhones and 
> iPads
> as their personal note taking and at school too. I think that these
> mainstream IOS devices with voiceover will be the nearby future of the
> accessibility for the blind. Since those assistive technology products 
> made
> specifically for the blind are so expensive, blind people are going to 
> shift
> to those devices, since they come with screen reading accessibility out of
> the box. Plus, they are not as expensive.  Additionally, since Braille
> displays are not as expensive as note takers, some might chose the option 
> to
> add a Braille display in combination to their IOS device instead of
> purchasing those major products such as Pacmate and Braille Note. If the
> trend continues like I mentioned, the Vocational Rehabilitation agencies
> better take notice of this and see fit. Besides, it would benefit their
> programs and services as well, and with this economy (if it continues to 
> be
> bad), they will not have to suffer budget cuts by trying to help 
> individuals
> with their note takers because they are so expensive.
> So, Humanware and freedom Scientific, I'm sorry if I offend you at all, I 
> am
> not trying to be mean. Otherwise don't listen please!!!! (huge smile)
>
> P.S. wondering if this listserve is that much public?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Koby Cox
> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:39 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>
> Yes.
> Koby.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:32 PM, "RJ Sandefur" 
> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. Is voice over easy to learn? RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>
>>
>>> I'd justify that the iPad is a cheap option.  The BrailleNote is hard to
> repair and neeeds thousands of dollars just to maintain.  I love my BNQT
> Apex, but let' face it.  It's really expensive.
>>> Beth
>>> P.S. does anyone know what happened to Bluetooth on the BrailleNote?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:08:10 -0500
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>>
>>> Guys, I have a braille 'n speak, but I think it has bit the dust. I was
> thinking of getting a braille note, but some one suggested getting an 
> iPad,
> or a laptop. I did some research on the iPad, and here's what I've found.
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html
>>> Do any of you use iPad's, and if so, who purchased it for you? If VR
>>> purchased it, How do you justify need for an Ipad? Sincerely, RJ
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