[nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products

Sat Nov 26 17:26:32 UTC 2011

Hello everyone,
OK, I shall try to combine my thoughts here:
1. Beth, bluetooth is still on the braillenote family of products.
2. IOS is awesome, and let us not forget iPod touch, :) There are a
wealth of apps available that can assist people with completeing
tasks, (e.g) pages for taking notes and writing documents, keynote for
presentations, and the list goes on.
3. Ashley, I have seen and used, for a short time, a qwerty bluetooth
keyboard. While it was aukward for me to use and the keys were not
spaced apart, they were, in fact, still quite large, and you might
have better luck than me, smiles.
4. Yes, notetakers and the like are quite expensive. My local lions
club was not even sure they'd be able to procure the funds for me to
get my apex, it was $6000. If they want to keep up, blindness
companies and the like are seriously going to have to consider
lowering there prices, or they will be headed for a potential
disaster. Blind people will, as other people have rightly pointed out,
start shifting towards IOS an separate braille displays, for their
cheapness and reliability.
Think that's everything for now. *smiles*
Best,
Josh

On 11/26/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hope,
> Oh, I wasn't aware you could substitute a bluetooth keyboard for the touch
> screen; I thought you could type on the keyboard but still needed the
> screen.
> So you're saying you can use the keyboard with voice over, and operate it as
> you would a computer then?
> How many cells is your display? Wish I had one! they're so expensive!
> Good to know and maybe I might get an ipad or Ipod touch then.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hope Paulos
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:52 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>
> I have a Seika braille display and a netbook and it works great. ALso have
> an ipod touch and am thinking about getting an iphone. You don't have to use
> the touch screen if you have a bluetooth keyboard. You just have to remember
> the keystrokes as you would on a PC. I'd go with the IOS over blindness
> products every time if I had the chance.
> Hope Paulos
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>
>
>> But I like the blindness notetaker because I can read and write braille on
>>
>> it. I think using a
>> touch screen would require a lot of memory and spatial awareness. I
>> already have to memorize where things like end, send and okay are on my
>> basic cell phone! But if an IOS devices works for someone go ahead; it’s a
>>
>> lot more portable than a heavy braille notetaker.
>> I wonder what braille displays you can use with those IPhones and IOS
>> devices.
>> Its cool that we have smaller, portable braille displays and keyboards
>> now.
>> How neat to have those options. The only braille displays I saw were the
>> large 40 cell and 80 cell displays, although I am aware of smaller ones.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Humberto Avila
>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:56 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>
>> Yes, I think that is why some many blind people are using iPhones and
>> iPads
>> as their personal note taking and at school too. I think that these
>> mainstream IOS devices with voiceover will be the nearby future of the
>> accessibility for the blind. Since those assistive technology products
>> made
>> specifically for the blind are so expensive, blind people are going to
>> shift
>> to those devices, since they come with screen reading accessibility out of
>> the box. Plus, they are not as expensive.  Additionally, since Braille
>> displays are not as expensive as note takers, some might chose the option
>> to
>> add a Braille display in combination to their IOS device instead of
>> purchasing those major products such as Pacmate and Braille Note. If the
>> trend continues like I mentioned, the Vocational Rehabilitation agencies
>> better take notice of this and see fit. Besides, it would benefit their
>> programs and services as well, and with this economy (if it continues to
>> be
>> bad), they will not have to suffer budget cuts by trying to help
>> individuals
>> with their note takers because they are so expensive.
>> So, Humanware and freedom Scientific, I'm sorry if I offend you at all, I
>> am
>> not trying to be mean. Otherwise don't listen please!!!! (huge smile)
>>
>> P.S. wondering if this listserve is that much public?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Koby Cox
>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 8:39 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>
>> Yes.
>> Koby.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:32 PM, "RJ Sandefur"
>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. Is voice over easy to learn? RJ
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 11:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd justify that the iPad is a cheap option.  The BrailleNote is hard to
>> repair and neeeds thousands of dollars just to maintain.  I love my BNQT
>> Apex, but let' face it.  It's really expensive.
>>>> Beth
>>>> P.S. does anyone know what happened to Bluetooth on the BrailleNote?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 23:08:10 -0500
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] ipad verses blindness products
>>>>
>>>> Guys, I have a braille 'n speak, but I think it has bit the dust. I was
>> thinking of getting a braille note, but some one suggested getting an
>> iPad,
>> or a laptop. I did some research on the iPad, and here's what I've found.
>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ipad/vision.html
>>>> Do any of you use iPad's, and if so, who purchased it for you? If VR
>>>> purchased it, How do you justify need for an Ipad? Sincerely, RJ
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