[nabs-l] Choosing How to Fly
Peter Donahue
pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
Mon Sep 12 19:41:19 UTC 2011
Hello Ashley,
Let me send you a Social Flights invite so you can sign up for the
service. It's free to join. There may also be a travel tribe in your area
you can connect with as well. Here is where you can begin to answer some of
your questions. All the best.
Peter Donahue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Right to Choose How to Fly
Peter,
Flying privately sounds like a good alternative. With increased security, it’s
a hastle to put everything through the machine and retrieve it. Also you
have inaccessible kiosks and inaccessible websites. I actually haven't flown
alone, but hearing all the stories of flying makes me a bit nervous. Its
stressful enough to go through a busy airport, I don't want to have to
advocate for the right to use my cane through out the airport instead of
being in a wheelchair or the right to keep my cane on the plane beside me.
So do you charter alone for you and your family? Is it possible to buy a
ticket on an existing charter plane just
as you would with a big airline? Do you choose to go alone to the gate or do
you get an escort from the airport? I think they're called skycaps.
Also, is getting a chartered aircraft much more expensive than a one way
ticket from coast to coast?
I mean assuming you flew non stop. I want to
air charter to Las Vegas!
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Donahue
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:47 PM
To: nimerjaber1 at gmail.com ; National Association of Blind Students mailing
list
Subject: [nabs-l] The Right to Choose How to Fly
Good afternoon everyone,
Without trying to add anything to this thread you are replying to a response
that has nothing to do with 9/11. Rather it's our ability to choose how we
will fly be it on a scheduled airline or via private air charter. If you're
both blind and large like I am these days that's a very real decision some
of us must make. Again this has nothing to do what soever to do with 9/11
but the right to decide how we as blind people choose to fly. Please pay
more attention to the message subject line in the future. It would also help
if people would be more vidulent about fitting their message subject lines
to the topic being discussed.
Peter Donahue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nimer M. Jaber, IC³" <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks
You people don't understand, do you? I don't agree with blind people's
canes being taken away and all the rest of the stuff that's been
happening, although I have to say that for about five years now I have
had no problems at all traveling, and I do it pretty often. I know
there are issues. But what you people don't understand is, it's the
difference between having the right to be independent and travel with
a cane and not having the right at all. If we left our nation
vulnerable to attack, some group (whether it be Muslims or some other
group in the future) who are hell-bent on the US' distruction will
attack and if we're not ready, everything the United States has done,
everything that over 200 years of soldiers fought for will just be
taken away. I'm shocked too as all this anti-american rhetoric but I
can't be too surprised with a liberal media and liberal college
professors ... Either way, everyone's got their own opinions ...
Thanks.
On 12.09.2011, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello Joshua and everyone,
>
> Yes. Keep in mind however that these are not scheduled flights like the
> airlines. As air charter clients have needs to fly to your area that will
> determine the availability of flights to where you need to go being
> offered.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks
>
>
> Do they have services, in Arkansas?
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 9/12/11, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com> wrote:
>> Hello Vejas and everyone,
>>
>> Private air travel holds another alternative to using the airlines. There
>> are a number of private air charter services that sell you seats on
>> chartered aircraft at about the cost of an airline ticket. As the
>> situation
>> with the airlines degrades even further these services are expected to
>> grow
>> changing how we fly in the future. From having talked to a number of
>> private
>> air charter companies and air charter brokers it's very possible that we
>> could find ourselves receiving better treatment by these services
>> compared
>> to that we've received from the airlines over the years.
>> For starters the vast majority of air charter company Web Sites are
>> very accessible with screen reading software and are easy to navigate. A
>> recent entry in to the world of per-seat private air travel ventures is:
>> http://www.socialflights.com
>>
>> While you need to get by a captcha in the signup process their Web
>> site
>> is very accessible and contains lots of information about this company.
>> It's
>> heavily integrated with Facebook so you'll need to have a Facebook
>> Account
>> and will need to be logged in before registering and logging in to Social
>> Flights. Check them out and let's take air travel by the blind to a
>> higher
>> level!
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "vejas" <brlsurfer at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks
>>
>>
>> Although independence is important, I still think our safety is
>> more important. Hopefully over the years, the airport people
>> will eventually understand our situation and not take away our
>> canes. And we can do something about it being the confident NFB
>> travelers we are.
>> Vejas
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:44:39 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks
>>
>> I understand that safety and security are an issue. But after
>> 9/11, airlines I think have been treating uss mercilessly bad.
>> With no mercy, airlines have taken canes away, dug into babies'
>> bottles, taken diapers off, and so many other violations of
>> people's privacy. I went to Florida with my hijab on and I had
>> to have somebody pat me down. No thrills, but still. I don't
>> particularly like the security checkpoints because of how they
>> might think of a blind person, somebody who is not WASP (white
>> Anlgo Saxon Protestant.) After 9/11, some things weren't so
>> good, such as thhe airline security. Even after that stupid guy
>> put a bomb in his underwear, there were more security issues.
>> I'm probably not flying back to Florida after what my parents
>> did, which was get a security pass without boarding a plane, to
>> make sure I got home. The airlines have always been a source of
>> contempt for all of us, so let's think not only about the people
>> who died, but the repercussions that followed.
>> Beth
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:54:50 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks
>>
>> Thanks Josh,
>> I think we should take time to reflect on the tragedy and also be
>> active.
>> Vote for whom you believe will
>> make our country safe and secure. You're right that safety and
>> security is
>> an issue as we students head back to campus. Actually, I'm not a
>> student
>> this semester, but will go back for continuing education next
>> semester at
>> nova, community college.
>>
>> I'd suggest you get aquainted with your school's safety/police
>> office if you
>> haven't already; know where it is, know what their number is, and
>> meet an officer or two. Some schools like mine, marymount
>> university, just
>> had security officers.
>> Know how to reach them as well. If you feel unsafe, walk with
>> friends back
>> to your dorm or call a security escort. Many schools offer such
>> a
>> service.
>> At least at MU, after 12 midnight, you had to show an ID to enter
>> the dorm;
>> this is a good thing. And also lock your dorm room, especially
>> at
>> night.
>> If there is a threat or natural disaster, I'd leave fast. Go to
>> a
>> friend's
>> home, family if they're in the area, or a hotel. Just go
>> somewhere safe.
>> Safety is a big priority.
>>
>> Okay, that's my tips for now.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 3:33 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks
>>
>> Ashley:
>> Great post!
>> This has everything to do, with this list, because many blind
>> students, are probably heading back to college, after being on
>> vacation.
>> This security issue is important.
>> May God bless America.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 9/11/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> We all have varying views on how to address safety and security.
>> But
>> somehow, some way, those terrorists got through.
>> We were attacked a decade ago.
>> I was finishing a class in high school when I heard the news.
>> School was
>> closed the next day. Our school had an assembly where the
>> choir,
>> band, and
>> other groups performed to commemorate 9/11.
>> I hope that we all take a moment to reflect on it. I will be
>> praying for
>> our
>> country and everyone? safety/security on the anniversary.
>> I? a Christian so I have faith that we will grow stronger as a
>> nation. If
>> you had a loved one impacted by the attack, I hope you recovered
>> somewhat
>> from the tragedy.
>>
>> Some pray in churches, others are going to public memorials
>> today and
>> still
>> others will do volunteer service to serve the country. If you
>> are doing
>> anything different or special, I hope it goes well for you.
>>
>> Take care.
>> Ashley
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