[nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the Nemethbraillecode
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Mon Sep 12 21:12:19 UTC 2011
Hi Joshua,
Good idea! I'd suggest that you air your suggestion and other
concerns about abolishing the Nemeth code to the BANA
chairperson, Judy Dixon, at the contact information I provided
last night. You should have gotten it, as it was posted to the
NABS list, although it bounced back at me from your email
provider, saying that it wasn't able to be delivered for some
reason. But since you're on the list, you should get it if you
didn't already.
Chris
Chris Nusbaum
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:16:14 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the
Nemethbraillecode
I know, what I'd like to see.
If the code is changed, they should let Doctor Nemeth look at it,
so
the BANA can get his approval, because he gave us the first Math
code.
I'd appreciate it, if the BANA would do that.
Blessings, Joshua
On 9/11/11, chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
I understand that. Maybe Sharon would be helpfull in writing
the
resolution, which is why I gave her email to Joshua. Joshua,
because
the convention isn't until next summer, if you feel strongly
enough to
do this, I would either email Dr. Maurer at
officeofthepresident at nfb.org or write a Braille letter and send
it to
the national center, attention Marc Maurer. Or you can skip the
NFB
altogether, and see if you can find a way to send your feedback
directly to BANA. Just my thoughts!
Chris
On 9/11/11, Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com> wrote:
Chris,
I know Sharon, and I am certain she would be of help. What I
was trying
to
explain is that it isn't the resolution's
committees jobs in general to write resolutions, but rather to
work with
resolutions that have already been written.
People who feel strongly about an issue need to find others and
work
together to write a resolution. My point in
mentioning next summer is this. The reason this has come up now
is
because
a message was posted on one of our
lists. BANA and other braille bodies throughout the world have
been
wrestling with this problem for a decade or two
now. It could be that some things might well change by next
convention so
writing a resolution now for next summer
just doesn't make much sense. Writing a resolution next spring
with facts
and concerns that are current as of that time
makes more sense. The discussion here is occurring as if
something is
going
to happen within days, and that's not the
case.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:34:21 -0400, chris nusbaum wrote:
Hi Ashley and everyone,
For anybody interested in this issue, you may want to join the
BANA-Announce list. To do this, send a blank email with the
subject
Subscribe to bana-announce at brailleauthority.org. Dave Andrews
and I
are subscribed to that list, so when there's new rules or
something
from BANA, one of us usually posts it to the lists. Usually I
leave
that up to Dave, since I'm only limited to the lists I'm on,
whereas
he can post it to the NFB-Net-Members list and it will go to all
members of all NFB lists. Speaking of Dave, as the moderator,
what do
you think of this discussion? I'd love to hear from you, since
you are
the owner and moderator! I agree with you on most of your
comments,
Steve. I'd just say that I think any Federationist has the right
to
talk to Sharon and express their opinion that a resolution should
be
written. Yes, the resolution won't be considered until next
summer,
but I do think that if a member suggested something to her about
a
resolution, Sharon would bring it up to the resolutions comittee.
Chris
On 9/11/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
We can discuss without profanity and yes there are youth on here
who
should
not pick up bad language from this
list. Chris, you may be fine with it and not offended, but I
bet many
kid's
parents would be and would take their kids off quickly if they
knew they
were learning profanity from a list.
Now to the issue. Has anyone researched Bana's position or
seen a press
release? What do they wish to replace it with?
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 1:31 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the
Nemethbraillecode
Hi Joshua,
I think you're talking about me, and while I think we should
limit the profanity because it's an archived list and that might
discourage people from joining the list, I don't need protection
from profanity anymore... Lord knows I hear it from my parents!
* Smiles!
Chris Nusbaum
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)
Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at:
www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and
visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:33:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BANA still considering abolishing the
Nemeth braillecode
Wow!
The cursing is back!
We have an eighth grader, on this list.
Please keep the profanety down.
Thanks, Joshua
On 9/10/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi, Joshua,
That sounds perhaps a worthwhile gesture, in the event of there
not
being significant capital, behind this braille unification
bullshit... We might accept a fact that we might be, nice and
outnumbered, in this. . The locals seem to really dig
mediocrity. I
guess you can just refuse to learn it, that's what I plan to do.
06
PM 9/10/2011, Joshua Lester wrote:
Carly, it's shameful.
I E-mailed the chairman of the resolutions committee.
Hopefully, I'll hear something.
Blessings, Joshua
On 9/10/11, Carly <carlymih at earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi, Joshua,
I'm with ya, brother!
The example of that BANA attempt att braille I saw, struck me as
being totally watered down and very much removed from the code I
know
and love so very deeply. In fact, my Not being able to find
meaning
within the sensual, bumps does not make me love braille any
less.
2011, you wrote:
I'm all for a unified Braille code.
That code, is the Nemeth Code!
Leave it alone!
Blessings, Joshua
On 9/10/11, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
<ntorcolini at wavecable.com
wrote:
[Blindmath] BANA still considering abolishing the Nemeth braille
code
Susan Jolly easjolly at ix.netcom.com
Fri Sep 9 17:10:37 CDT 2011
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I have just recieved my copy of the Summer 2011 Bulletin of the
National
Braille Association (NBA) which is the professional organization
providing
continuing education to both paid and volunteer braille
transcribers here in
the United States. The President's Message states, "At some
point in
the
near future, the braille powers-that-be will make a decision
about a unified
braille code for the English-speaking worlds--a code that will
combine
literary and technical transcriptions under one set of rules and
constructions."
Elsewhere in this issue of the Bulletin, the NBA representive to
the Braille
Authority of North America (BANA) writes that the BANA
"Education and
Outreach committee is still reviewing the possibility of a
universal
code."
Note that the next meeting of BANA will be held November 3-6,
2011
and
will
be hosted in the Baltimore area by the NFB.
If you believe as I do that the BAUK-like representation of
maths in
the
current proposals for a unified code are significantly inferior
to
the
Nemeth code's representation of mathematics, you might want to
take
action
now.
Wouldn't it be ironic if the US were to abolish the use of the
Nemeth
code
just as it is being widely adopted in countries such as India
and
Indonesia
which have larger populations of braille users?
Sincerely,
SusanJ
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