[nabs-l] Wanting to be off the 9/11 thread

Thu Sep 15 00:26:48 UTC 2011

Hi all,
This list is dedicated to discussing blindness-related issues,
particularly those most relevant to blind students and blind
youth-discussions of access, blindness training, blindness philosophy,
etc. We have always worked hard to keep the scope of list discussions
restricted to blindness matters in order to control the volume of
email on the list and in order to maximize the amount of
blindness-relevant information that is shared. If we opened the list
up to political and religious debates, TV shows, musicians or
discussion of other popular topics unrelated to blindness, the volume
of email would skyrocket and only a small percentage of the emails
exchanged would actually be about blindness. Consequently, the list
wouldn't achieve its purpose and many subscribers would be
disappointed by the relative lack of blindness-related content. The
discussion about air travel as it pertains to blindness was on point,
but the side conversation about 9/11, Fox News vs. MSNBC, etc. had
nothing to do with blindness and should not have continued as it did.
We can, however, discuss topics that are controversial and have
debates-as long as the topic of the debate has to do with blindness.
That's the key distinction here. The other issue, which has been
raised here recently, is that debates need to be conducted in a
respectful manner free from personal attacks.
Best,
Arielle Silverman, Former NABS Listserv Chair and Former NABS President

On 9/14/11, Hartle, Jesse <JHartle at nfb.org> wrote:
> Chris,
>
>     I believe that it is the content of this debate on 911, rather than the
> ability to debate issues of blindness, Which this list does allow.  Jesse
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 4:50 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Wanting to be off the 9/11 thread
>
> Well, you sensored it a little! LOL! Again, tell it like it is!
> Love it! So, I have a question, then.  As you said, "this forum has no place
> for partisan agendas..." except for the NFB's partisan agenda? Oh, so if we
> don't like partisanship politically on this list, then why do we allow the
> partisan agenda of the NFB to be on this list?
>
> Chris
>
>  Chris Nusbaum
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the
> National Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)
>
>   Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at:
> www.icanfoundation.info for
> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually impaired
> children in MD say "I can!"
>
>
> Sent from my BrailleNote
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:11:02 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] Wanting to be off the 9/11 thread
>
> To those who keep complaining about the 9/11 threads, be proactive and start
> something new instead of complaining.  And others have moved on.
> We've discussed flying with a cane, traveling independently around an
> airport, E-books online and the relaunch of a web radio show.
> The only
> obsessing I continue to see on this thread is those bitching about it, and
> worse, those veering off with ridiculous, partisan comments, and since I'm
> on it now, to each his own.  You conservatives go on and on about liberal
> agendas, but conservatives have agendas too- that's how politics work.  And
> if one group wants to organize and inform, then other groups must be
> afforded the same opportunity.  Just like two organizations of the blind.
> So get off the soap boxes and realize this forum has no place for partisan
> agendas especially when it degenerates into attacks and name-calling.  Once
> again, grow up.  And now I'm going against my own suggestion of leaving this
> sh*# to the moderator.
> Geesh,
> look what this reduces me to...
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog for Live Well Nebraska.com at
> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 07:08:42 -0700
> From: vejas <brlsurfer at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
> 	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] reflecting on the attacks
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> Shouldn't we be done with this thread? It's been going on for
> three days.
>
>
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