[nabs-l] Accessible PDF Documents on the Mac

Alex Marositz samarositz at gmail.com
Sun Sep 18 23:59:45 UTC 2011


Hello List

I am hopeful you can help.  

I have a very good, accessible PDF version of my textbook.  It is
searchable, correctly paginated, and has a table of contents with several
layers of bookmarks for easy navigation.  I say this because I don't want
anyone to think this is a problem with the PDF file itself.  At home, I have
a windows based computer I can use Adobe Acrobat Pro to read the file but
in class, I bring a Mac notebook for taking notes.  When I view my textbook
on the mac using Preview, Voiceover does not recognize many of the text
characters in the file.  For instance, "They" becomes "hey".  The errors are
so frequent, the book is nearly unreadable.  There are times when I need to
refer to the book in class.  

Can anyone suggest changes I need to make to Voiceover or Preview to have it
read correctly.  Short of that, can anyone suggest an alternative  program
for reading PDF files on the Mac?  So far as I can tell, Adobe Reader is
inaccessible to Voiceover.  

Thank you in advance for your time and attention.

Alex Marositz
Skype and Twitter: samarositz

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: jfw 12 with Microsoft outlook 2010 (Amy Sabo)
   2. Re: (nabs-l) JAWS and Outlook 2010 (Chris Nusbaum)
   3. Re: docx files on the braillenote (Chris Nusbaum)
   4. Re: docx files on the braillenote (Chris Nusbaum)
   5. Re: docx files on the braillenote (Chris Nusbaum)
   6. Re: for chris (Chris Nusbaum)
   7. Re: Trouble with Yahoo! (chris nusbaum)
   8. Fwd: Outlook shortcut key (chris nusbaum)
   9. nabs High School Committee Presents: Getting ready for the
      school year! (Darian Smith)
  10. Re: Off Topic Messages (Joshua Lester)
  11. Re: accessible video games (Josh Gregory)
  12. Re: Off Topic Messages (Elizabeth)
  13. Re: accessible video games (Patrick Molloy)
  14. Re: Trouble with Yahoo! (David Andrews)
  15. Re: Off Topic Messages (David Andrews)
  16. Re: accessible video games (David Andrews)
  17. Re: Off Topic Messages (David Andrews)
  18. Re: accessible video games (David Andrews)
  19. Re: Off Topic Messages (chris nusbaum)
  20. Re: accessible video games (Juan Munoz)
  21. Re: docx files on the braillenote (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
  22. Re: Trouble with Yahoo! (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:41:17 -0600
From: "Amy Sabo" <amylsabo at comcast.net>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] jfw 12 with Microsoft outlook 2010
Message-ID: <005c01cc7550$3e16b210$ba441630$@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hello chris,

Well, I have already solved the problem on my own. I had to add
this feature to the ribbons. But, thanks anyway for your help
and, I will talk to you soon.


Hugs,
amy

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:19 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] jfw 12 with Microsoft outlook 2010

Hi Amy,

I'm forwarding this to a friend of mine who's helping me with 
Outlook.  I believe you have to use the vertual ribbons.

Chris

 Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National 
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)

  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at: 
www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"


Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Amy Sabo" <amylsabo at comcast.net
To: "NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND STUDENTS" <NABS-L at NFBNET.ORG
Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:24:53 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] jfw 12 with Microsoft outlook 2010

Hello all,

I hope that you all are doing well.  I need your help.  I'm 
trying
to send a attachment to a document and, I have tried many of the
hotkeys in using Microsoft 2010 and, I was wondering if any of
you know how to attach a document as a attachment to a email
message to send to someone?

Also, does any of you have any other hotkeys/shortcuts for using
jfw with Microsoft 2010?

Thanks again and, I look forward to hearing from you all soon.


Hugs,
amy
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:21:44 -0400
From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: NABS list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>, amylsabo at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] (nabs-l) JAWS and Outlook 2010
Message-ID: <4e750175.03d7e00a.4542.ffffbde2 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

I forwarded Amy's question about Outlook to a friend of mine who 
is an experienced user.  Here's what he
had to say.  Hope this helps!
 Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National 
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)

  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at: 
www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"


Sent from my BrailleNote

 ---- Original Message ------
From: "gary.legates" <gary.legates at comcast.net
Subject: RE: (nabs-l) JAWS and Outlook 2010
Date sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:50:28 -0400

Hi Chris.  Here is how to attach a file.  After you have written 
your
message, or when you are in the edit window, go to the upper 
ribbon and find
the insert tab.  Assuming you are using the jaws virtual ribbon, 
go down
arrow and then right arrow and it will say "attach file.  Hit 
enter on that
and then shift tab to the folder combo box or type in the path of 
the file
you want to attach.  Then hit enter.  The file is attached.  If 
you want to
check on this, you could shift tab once, and you will see between 
the
subject and the edit window of your message, a tab listing your 
attachment.
Then, just hit alt s t send the message.  You can also send 
yourself a
carboncoppy of the message if you really want to be sure the file 
attached.
Hope this helps.  If you want to make shortcut keys you can 
always put
commands you use often on the quick access tool bar.  Hope this 
helps.  Let
me know if I can be of further help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum [mailto:dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 6:19 PM
To: Gary Legates
Subject: fw: (nabs-l) JAWS and Outlook 2010

Hi Gary,

I'd like to know this too, so can you tell both of us how to 
attach a
document to an email in Outlook? Thanks!

Chris


Sent from my BrailleNote

---- Original Message ------
From: "Amy Sabo" <amylsabo at comcast.net
Subject: [nabs-l] jfw 12 with Microsoft outlook 2010 Date sent: 
Thu, 15 Sep
2011 12:24:53 -0600

Hello all,

I hope that you all are doing well.  I need your help.  I'm 
trying to send a
attachment to a document and, I have tried many of the hotkeys in 
using
Microsoft 2010 and, I was wondering if any of you know how to 
attach a
document as a attachment to a email message to send to someone?

Also, does any of you have any other hotkeys/shortcuts for using 
jfw with
Microsoft 2010?

Thanks again and, I look forward to hearing from you all soon.


Hugs,
amy
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:47:42 -0400
From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote
Message-ID: <4e75078b.cb58340a.0ec0.7045 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

What's funny is you can read DOCX files on another Humanware 
product, namely the Victor Stream, but not on the BrailleNote.

 Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National 
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)

  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at: 
www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"


Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:45:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

Hi All,
As of now, the BrailleNote does NOT support docx files.  It's the 
one
problem I have with the BrailleNote.  I find that the best thing 
to do
is convert your docx files to .doc files.  However, Humanware 
really
should do something to make reading docx files possible, because 
I
wonder how much longer .doc will be available?
Patrick

On 9/15/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com> 
wrote:
 Hello,
 I think the latest version of the Braille Note Apex, version 
9.01, does
 support opening and reading .DOCX  extention, but not quite sure 
if you can
 write .DOCX documents.  But, you can open them--which is a good 
thing.


 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
 Of Chris Nusbaum
 Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:49 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

 Hi Vejas,

 Unfortunately, DOCX files are unsupported with the BrailleNote 
as
 of now.  The only thing you can do is put the files on a thumb
 drive or SD card and convert it to a DOC or TXT file.

 Chris

  Chris Nusbaum

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
 real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
 exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
 opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
 nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National
 Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)

   Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at:
 www.icanfoundation.info for
 information on our foundation and how it helps blind and 
visually
 impaired children in MD say "I can!"


 Sent from my BrailleNote

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: vejas <brlsurfer at gmail.com
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
 list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:14:42 -0700
 Subject: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

 Hi All,
 I am having a problem with DOCX files.  Today my Spanish teacher
 gave me some files, and two were DOCX, which I can't read.  She
 was unable to tell the difference between DOC and DOCX.  Do you
 think there is a possible way to open DOCX files, maybe in the
 next version?
 Sincerely,
 Vejas

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:47:51 -0400
From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote
Message-ID: <4e750794.cb58340a.0ec0.704a at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

They promised that, but I don't think it happened.

Chris

 Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National 
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)

  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at: 
www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"


Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Humberto Avila" <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:10:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

No--I haven't even tried opening .DOCX files with an apex.  I 
don't have one
anyways.  But that is what I've heard from a humanware news 
release when the
new keysoft 9.01 was released for the apex.


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:32 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

I didn't think it supported that file.  Do you speak from 
experience?

-----Original Message-----
From: Humberto Avila
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:32 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

Hello,
I think the latest version of the Braille Note Apex, version 
9.01, does
support opening and reading .DOCX  extention, but not quite sure 
if you can
write .DOCX documents.  But, you can open them--which is a good 
thing.


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:49 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

Hi Vejas,

Unfortunately, DOCX files are unsupported with the BrailleNote as
of now.  The only thing you can do is put the files on a thumb
drive or SD card and convert it to a DOC or TXT file.

Chris

Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)

  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at:
www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"


Sent from my BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: vejas <brlsurfer at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:14:42 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

Hi All,
I am having a problem with DOCX files.  Today my Spanish teacher
gave me some files, and two were DOCX, which I can't read.  She
was unable to tell the difference between DOC and DOCX.  Do you
think there is a possible way to open DOCX files, maybe in the
next version?
Sincerely,
Vejas

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:47:44 -0400
From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote
Message-ID: <4e75078d.cb58340a.0ec0.7046 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Ashley,

It doesn't, except if you convert the DOCX file to a DOC, TXT, or 
RTF file.  Humberto, I think you misunderstood.

 Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National 
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)

  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at: 
www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"


Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:31:33 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

I didn't think it supported that file.  Do you speak from 
experience?

-----Original Message-----
From: Humberto Avila
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:32 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

Hello,
I think the latest version of the Braille Note Apex, version 
9.01, does
support opening and reading .DOCX  extention, but not quite sure 
if you can
write .DOCX documents.  But, you can open them--which is a good 
thing.


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org 
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:49 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

Hi Vejas,

Unfortunately, DOCX files are unsupported with the BrailleNote as
of now.  The only thing you can do is put the files on a thumb
drive or SD card and convert it to a DOC or TXT file.

Chris

Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)

  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at:
www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"


Sent from my BrailleNote

----- Original Message -----
From: vejas <brlsurfer at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:14:42 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote

Hi All,
I am having a problem with DOCX files.  Today my Spanish teacher
gave me some files, and two were DOCX, which I can't read.  She
was unable to tell the difference between DOC and DOCX.  Do you
think there is a possible way to open DOCX files, maybe in the
next version?
Sincerely,
Vejas

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:47:49 -0400
From: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] for chris
Message-ID: <4e750792.cb58340a.0ec0.7048 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

Great! Hope you find the BN (acronym for BrailleNote, you'll see 
that a lot on that list) list useful.

 Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National 
Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)

  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at: 
www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"


Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: vejas <brlsurfer at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing 
list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:26:47 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] for chris

Hi Chris,
Thank you for telling me about the Braillenote list-serve.  I
signed up the day you told me and sent them my Docx question.

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:01:09 -0400
From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Trouble with Yahoo!
Message-ID:
	<CABpnAxHb8TEymJ6fTan=PjBb2NsrCExvgp-cV6TC_HRFWRMSyQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Joshua,

The Yahoo Web interface is entirely inaccessible, to the best of my
knowledge. I used to have a Yahoo account before I got my Gmail, and I
couldn't do anything, not even type an email. If you really want to
use Yahoo, you'd have to use Microsoft Outlook or another email
client. Has Yahoo changed their Web interface so it's accessible since
I switched to Gmail? I believe Nicole Torcolini from this list is an
intern at Yahoo, if I'm not mistaken, so she might know about this.

Chris

On 9/16/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
> Do any of you have a Yahoo account?
> I'm trying to create an E-mail account with Yahoo, but I'm having
problems.
> I'm able to do everything, but when I get to "Create my account," I
> hit enter, but nothing happens.
> What's going on?
> Please walk me through this, off list.
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
>
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.c
om
>


-- 
Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan

Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"



------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:07:02 -0400
From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,	Amy Sabo <amylsabo at comcast.net>
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Outlook shortcut key
Message-ID:
	<CABpnAxH9x2M0agu5CKZjche_XJ-1_2=zWLscOFdepYC8R7NrHQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

FYI... for all Outlook users.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "gary.legates" <gary.legates at comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:55:30 -0400
Subject: RE: (nabs-l) JAWS and Outlook 2010
To: Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>

Hi.  I just found a shortcut key.  If you want to send a message with a
blind carbon copy, go I to your message by typing control n, and then type
alt number 6.  Not numpad 6, but number 6.  This works for me.  It is on the
quick adcess toolbar, but I am having problems adding items to this.  I can
do it in wrd, but not in outlook.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum [mailto:dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 6:19 PM
To: Gary Legates
Subject: fw: (nabs-l) JAWS and Outlook 2010

Hi Gary,

I'd like to know this too, so can you tell both of us how to attach a
document to an email in Outlook? Thanks!

Chris


Sent from my BrailleNote

---- Original Message ------
From: "Amy Sabo" <amylsabo at comcast.net
Subject: [nabs-l] jfw 12 with Microsoft outlook 2010 Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep
2011 12:24:53 -0600

Hello all,

I hope that you all are doing well.  I need your help.  I'm trying to send a
attachment to a document and, I have tried many of the hotkeys in using
Microsoft 2010 and, I was wondering if any of you know how to attach a
document as a attachment to a email message to send to someone?

Also, does any of you have any other hotkeys/shortcuts for using jfw with
Microsoft 2010?

Thanks again and, I look forward to hearing from you all soon.


Hugs,
amy
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-- 
Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan

Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"



------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:41:02 -0700
From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs High School Committee Presents: Getting ready
	for the	school year!
Message-ID:
	<CAEwUdjOwU3PTw4MdD-8ZUjYfEex-=HR4=qxMyg49r8PcERqUrQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Greetings all,
  The following announcement comes from the National Association of
Blind StudentsHigh School committee, and is for all of you high school
students out there.
Are you a high school student?

Are you looking to meet with other blind high school students?

Do you want to develop leadership and learn ways of doing different
tasks and more about the National Federation of the Blind?

If so, join us as we talk about the basics of starting off a new year
of high school.

When: Sunday September, 18th at 7:00 p.m Eastern

Where: 712-775-7100? Pass code: 257963

Bre Brown
High school committee chair



------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:21:21 -0500
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Off Topic Messages
Message-ID:
	<CAO83KOscN3POY36K=ty7uMA2+z6CULBmNbfhou6MHnB+C1cg1A at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi, Mr Andrews.
Would you be willing to help me, in starting a list for us to discuss
one of the topics, that were being discussed here?
We need a political talk list, where we can discuss the political
issues, and how they relate to us, as blind individuals.
That would be an interesting list idea.
Thanks, Joshua

On 9/16/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> The range and number of off topic messages here in the last week or
> so has been astounding.  Consequently, I have placed the whole list
> under moderated status until they die out.  This means that each
> message has to be approved by me.
>
> This list exists to support nabs and state organizations of students
> and for discussion of blindness-related student matters.  It is not
> for political discussion, advertising internet radio stations,
> personal messages etc.
>
> And ... please don't feel you should debate me about the purpose of
> the list.  I am not trying to be harsh, just trying to get people
> back on track.  When things stray too far, people start unsubscribing.
>
> David Andrews, List Owner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
>
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>



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 23:59:32 -0400
From: Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
	list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible video games
Message-ID: <4e741b30.64b1340a.3fa4.ffff9a4f at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed

Dave,
I do indeed agree with you, but would like to add this:
  I do not know how many of you can play video games the way they 
are today, and, in some instances, I do agree that some are quite 
inaccessible.  However, I do have a nintendo DS and find some of 
the games for this system to be semi-accessible if I am focused 
and pay attention enough to play them, which I do, I'm very into 
these types of things lol.  I am a blind individual and play by 
sound and tactile feeling.

Thoughts? Write offlist if you wish.
Best,
Josh

sent from my Apex
Email:joshkart12 at gmail.com

----- Original Message -----
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:43:21 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible video games

We are just to small a market for it to be worth their while.  
And
...  in many instances, it just wouldn't be possible.  Many 
games are
based on eye-hand coordination and can't be reproduced with sound 
or
other  modalities in the same way.

Dave

At 08:00 PM 9/14/2011, you wrote:
Hi All,
I'm curious to get your thoughts on this question that's been in 
the
back of my mind recently: Why haven't mainstream video game 
companies
even attempted to make their products accessible to blind people?
Wouldn't it grow their profits? And would it be all that 
difficult to
make a video game accessible? We have described movies, after 
all, and
there's the blind driver car.  If they can make an accessible 
CAR, why
not video games? What do others think about this issue?
Patrick


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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:10:51 -0400
From: "Elizabeth" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Off Topic Messages
Message-ID: <COL118-DS5F89212661AF1E0E0A8CDBA090 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=response

Thank you for taking charge in bringing this email list back to where it 
should be. However, I am also wondering why none of the current board 
members have not done anything publically to steer the list back in the 
right direction. Is it typical for you to moderate this list on your own, or

is there generally someone designated by the board to help you in this 
matter as well? Any clarification you can provide on this matter would be 
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:46 PM
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [nabs-l] Off Topic Messages

> The range and number of off topic messages here in the last week or so has

> been astounding.  Consequently, I have placed the whole list under 
> moderated status until they die out.  This means that each message has to 
> be approved by me.
>
> This list exists to support nabs and state organizations of students and 
> for discussion of blindness-related student matters.  It is not for 
> political discussion, advertising internet radio stations, personal 
> messages etc.
>
> And ... please don't feel you should debate me about the purpose of the 
> list.  I am not trying to be harsh, just trying to get people back on 
> track.  When things stray too far, people start unsubscribing.
>
> David Andrews, List Owner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
> nabs-l:
>
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> 



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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 01:18:40 -0400
From: Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible video games
Message-ID:
	<CAN+-G_BFA5VrVcRbdMhTrv=_Hq1_e8AhViKynQZkgVn_6=HRgg at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Thanks for all of your thoughts. It seems like game companies should
at least try and make their games accessible. What's the worst that
could happen? Furthermore, how will we know unless we try?
Patrick

On 9/16/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> We are just to small a market for it to be worth their while.  And
> ... in many instances, it just wouldn't be possible.  Many games are
> based on eye-hand coordination and can't be reproduced with sound or
> other  modalities in the same way.
>
> Dave
>
> At 08:00 PM 9/14/2011, you wrote:
>>Hi All,
>>I'm curious to get your thoughts on this question that's been in the
>>back of my mind recently: Why haven't mainstream video game companies
>>even attempted to make their products accessible to blind people?
>>Wouldn't it grow their profits? And would it be all that difficult to
>>make a video game accessible? We have described movies, after all, and
>>there's the blind driver car. If they can make an accessible CAR, why
>>not video games? What do others think about this issue?
>>Patrick
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
>
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>



------------------------------

Message: 14
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:25:11 -0500
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Trouble with Yahoo!
Message-ID: <auto-000028722868 at mailfront3.g2host.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

This is not true, at least with a PC, and up-to-date versions of your 
screen reader and browser.

Dave

At 05:01 PM 9/17/2011, you wrote:
>Hi Joshua,
>
>The Yahoo Web interface is entirely inaccessible, to the best of my
>knowledge. I used to have a Yahoo account before I got my Gmail, and I
>couldn't do anything, not even type an email. If you really want to
>use Yahoo, you'd have to use Microsoft Outlook or another email
>client. Has Yahoo changed their Web interface so it's accessible since
>I switched to Gmail? I believe Nicole Torcolini from this list is an
>intern at Yahoo, if I'm not mistaken, so she might know about this.
>
>Chris
>
>On 9/16/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> > Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
> > Do any of you have a Yahoo account?
> > I'm trying to create an E-mail account with Yahoo, but I'm having
problems.
> > I'm able to do everything, but when I get to "Create my account," I
> > hit enter, but nothing happens.
> > What's going on?
> > Please walk me through this, off list.
> > Thanks, Joshua
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > nabs-l mailing list
> > nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> > nabs-l:
> > 
>
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.c
om
> >
>
>
>--
>Chris Nusbaum
>
>"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
>problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
>a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
>be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan




------------------------------

Message: 15
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:28:08 -0500
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Off Topic Messages
Message-ID: <auto-000028014073 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

No, I am not willing, because I don't think it is necessary.  Truly 
blindness-related political matters can be discussed on blind talk, 
or nfb talk.  However, what most people mean when they say "political 
discussion," is that they want a place to state their right, or left 
views -- something you have already tried to do on nabs-l.

Dave

At 11:21 PM 9/16/2011, you wrote:
>Hi, Mr Andrews.
>Would you be willing to help me, in starting a list for us to discuss
>one of the topics, that were being discussed here?
>We need a political talk list, where we can discuss the political
>issues, and how they relate to us, as blind individuals.
>That would be an interesting list idea.
>Thanks, Joshua
>
>On 9/16/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> > The range and number of off topic messages here in the last week or
> > so has been astounding.  Consequently, I have placed the whole list
> > under moderated status until they die out.  This means that each
> > message has to be approved by me.
> >
> > This list exists to support nabs and state organizations of students
> > and for discussion of blindness-related student matters.  It is not
> > for political discussion, advertising internet radio stations,
> > personal messages etc.
> >
> > And ... please don't feel you should debate me about the purpose of
> > the list.  I am not trying to be harsh, just trying to get people
> > back on track.  When things stray too far, people start unsubscribing.
> >
> > David Andrews, List Owner




------------------------------

Message: 16
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:30:03 -0500
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible video games
Message-ID: <auto-000028723180 at mailfront3.g2host.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

There have been various blind persons, over the years, who have 
figured out how to play some video games.  If that is what you are in 
too then great -- I applaud your ingenuity.  For me -- I don't have 
the time or interest.

Dave

At 10:59 PM 9/16/2011, you wrote:
>Dave,
>I do indeed agree with you, but would like to add this:
>  I do not know how many of you can play video games the way they 
> are today, and, in some instances, I do agree that some are quite 
> inaccessible.  However, I do have a nintendo DS and find some of 
> the games for this system to be semi-accessible if I am focused and 
> pay attention enough to play them, which I do, I'm very into these 
> types of things lol.  I am a blind individual and play by sound and 
> tactile feeling.
>
>Thoughts? Write offlist if you wish.
>Best,
>Josh
>
>sent from my Apex
>Email:joshkart12 at gmail.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:43:21 -0500
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible video games
>
>We are just to small a market for it to be worth their while.
>And
>...  in many instances, it just wouldn't be possible.  Many games are
>based on eye-hand coordination and can't be reproduced with sound or
>other  modalities in the same way.
>
>Dave
>
>At 08:00 PM 9/14/2011, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>I'm curious to get your thoughts on this question that's been in the
>back of my mind recently: Why haven't mainstream video game companies
>even attempted to make their products accessible to blind people?
>Wouldn't it grow their profits? And would it be all that difficult to
>make a video game accessible? We have described movies, after all, and
>there's the blind driver car.  If they can make an accessible CAR, why
>not video games? What do others think about this issue?
>Patrick




------------------------------

Message: 17
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:31:52 -0500
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Off Topic Messages
Message-ID: <auto-000028014335 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

The nabs board and other appointed persons, who have watched the list 
over the years have generally been good about keeping things on 
track.  However, students are busy, and different people have 
different boiling points.  I am there as a backup, as needed, I at 
least skim everything on every list.  I try not to get to far behind, 
but sometime do -- as I did with nabs-l this week.

Dave

At 11:10 PM 9/16/2011, you wrote:
>Thank you for taking charge in bringing this email list back to 
>where it should be. However, I am also wondering why none of the 
>current board members have not done anything publically to steer the 
>list back in the right direction. Is it typical for you to moderate 
>this list on your own, or is there generally someone designated by 
>the board to help you in this matter as well? Any clarification you 
>can provide on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Elizabeth
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:46 PM
>To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>Subject: [nabs-l] Off Topic Messages
>
>>The range and number of off topic messages here in the last week or 
>>so has been astounding.  Consequently, I have placed the whole list 
>>under moderated status until they die out.  This means that each 
>>message has to be approved by me.
>>
>>This list exists to support nabs and state organizations of 
>>students and for discussion of blindness-related student 
>>matters.  It is not for political discussion, advertising internet 
>>radio stations, personal messages etc.
>>
>>And ... please don't feel you should debate me about the purpose of 
>>the list.  I am not trying to be harsh, just trying to get people 
>>back on track.  When things stray too far, people start unsubscribing.
>>
>>David Andrews, List Owner




------------------------------

Message: 18
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:33:43 -0500
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible video games
Message-ID: <auto-000028014445 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

What's the worst that could happen -- they could spend a bunch of 
money on something that is a flop, either it doesn't work, or blind 
people wouldn't buy.

In an ideal world, what you ask would be done, but game makers, for 
the most part are seeing a shrinking business, so they aren't likely 
to take on a no win proposition.

Dave

At 12:18 AM 9/17/2011, you wrote:
>Thanks for all of your thoughts. It seems like game companies should
>at least try and make their games accessible. What's the worst that
>could happen? Furthermore, how will we know unless we try?
>Patrick
>
>On 9/16/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> > We are just to small a market for it to be worth their while.  And
> > ... in many instances, it just wouldn't be possible.  Many games are
> > based on eye-hand coordination and can't be reproduced with sound or
> > other  modalities in the same way.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 08:00 PM 9/14/2011, you wrote:
> >>Hi All,
> >>I'm curious to get your thoughts on this question that's been in the
> >>back of my mind recently: Why haven't mainstream video game companies
> >>even attempted to make their products accessible to blind people?
> >>Wouldn't it grow their profits? And would it be all that difficult to
> >>make a video game accessible? We have described movies, after all, and
> >>there's the blind driver car. If they can make an accessible CAR, why
> >>not video games? What do others think about this issue?
> >>Patrick




------------------------------

Message: 19
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:41:14 -0400
From: chris nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Off Topic Messages
Message-ID:
	<CABpnAxF688o_XhBEgTUC5J5Kb-4mTHHwjfOqUzqn_-t3rN_JeQ at mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Joshua,

I'd be willing to help you. I have a name for it already,
blind-politics! I know how to create a Google Group, and can do that
for you. Of course, though, that would put me as the moderator, so if
you'd rather be the moderator, I can tell you how to do it. Please
write me off list.

Chris

On 9/17/11, Elizabeth <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you for taking charge in bringing this email list back to where it
> should be. However, I am also wondering why none of the current board
> members have not done anything publically to steer the list back in the
> right direction. Is it typical for you to moderate this list on your own,
or
> is there generally someone designated by the board to help you in this
> matter as well? Any clarification you can provide on this matter would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:46 PM
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [nabs-l] Off Topic Messages
>
>> The range and number of off topic messages here in the last week or so
has
>>
>> been astounding.  Consequently, I have placed the whole list under
>> moderated status until they die out.  This means that each message has to
>> be approved by me.
>>
>> This list exists to support nabs and state organizations of students and
>> for discussion of blindness-related student matters.  It is not for
>> political discussion, advertising internet radio stations, personal
>> messages etc.
>>
>> And ... please don't feel you should debate me about the purpose of the
>> list.  I am not trying to be harsh, just trying to get people back on
>> track.  When things stray too far, people start unsubscribing.
>>
>> David Andrews, List Owner
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-- 
Chris Nusbaum

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan

Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
impaired children in MD say "I can!"



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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:14:35 -0500
From: Juan Munoz <jcmunoz1989 at gmail.com>
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] accessible video games
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Hi all,

My favorite games are the only games I know for sure I can play, and
those are fighting games, in particular, Mortal Kombat games. The
newer versions of these incorporate stereo surroundsound, meaning that
the location of my fighter is very easy for me to keep track of. I
grew up with some sight before losing it, and therefore was able to
play games like Tetris, Super Mario, and 007. I do get nastalgic when
I hear my nephews play newer versions of my childhood games, and often
wonder how these could be made accessible without taking away from the
enjoyment of both blind and sighted players. The only thing I can
think of is to at least have audible menu options read allowed by
either human or synthesized speech so that we can customise player
options, create online accounts on XBOX Live and PSN, etc. Beyond
this, I've got nothing, but wouldn't that be quite the huge leap
forward?

Respectfully,
JC

On 9/17/11, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for all of your thoughts. It seems like game companies should
> at least try and make their games accessible. What's the worst that
> could happen? Furthermore, how will we know unless we try?
> Patrick
>
> On 9/16/11, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> We are just to small a market for it to be worth their while.  And
>> ... in many instances, it just wouldn't be possible.  Many games are
>> based on eye-hand coordination and can't be reproduced with sound or
>> other  modalities in the same way.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 08:00 PM 9/14/2011, you wrote:
>>>Hi All,
>>>I'm curious to get your thoughts on this question that's been in the
>>>back of my mind recently: Why haven't mainstream video game companies
>>>even attempted to make their products accessible to blind people?
>>>Wouldn't it grow their profits? And would it be all that difficult to
>>>make a video game accessible? We have described movies, after all, and
>>>there's the blind driver car. If they can make an accessible CAR, why
>>>not video games? What do others think about this issue?
>>>Patrick
>>
>>
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-- 
Respectfully,

Juan Carlos Munoz, President
Texas Association Of Blind Students
www.nfbtx.org/tabs
Phone: (832) 378-8632



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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:28:44 -0700
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote
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Yes, that is funny, but comparing BrailleNotes to Victor Streams is like 
comparing apples to oranges.

Nicole

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote


> What's funny is you can read DOCX files on another Humanware product, 
> namely the Victor Stream, but not on the BrailleNote.
>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real 
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a 
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be 
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of 
> the National Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)
>
>  Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
>
>
> Sent from my BrailleNote
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:45:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote
>
> Hi All,
> As of now, the BrailleNote does NOT support docx files.  It's the one
> problem I have with the BrailleNote.  I find that the best thing to do
> is convert your docx files to .doc files.  However, Humanware really
> should do something to make reading docx files possible, because I
> wonder how much longer .doc will be available?
> Patrick
>
> On 9/15/11, Humberto Avila <avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I think the latest version of the Braille Note Apex, version 9.01, does
> support opening and reading .DOCX  extention, but not quite sure if you 
> can
> write .DOCX documents.  But, you can open them--which is a good thing.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:49 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote
>
> Hi Vejas,
>
> Unfortunately, DOCX files are unsupported with the BrailleNote as
> of now.  The only thing you can do is put the files on a thumb
> drive or SD card and convert it to a DOC or TXT file.
>
> Chris
>
>  Chris Nusbaum
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
> nuisance." -- Kenneth Jernigan (President of the National
> Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986.)
>
>   Visit the I C.A.N.  Foundation online at:
> www.icanfoundation.info for
> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
>
>
> Sent from my BrailleNote
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: vejas <brlsurfer at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:14:42 -0700
> Subject: [nabs-l] docx files on the braillenote
>
> Hi All,
> I am having a problem with DOCX files.  Today my Spanish teacher
> gave me some files, and two were DOCX, which I can't read.  She
> was unable to tell the difference between DOC and DOCX.  Do you
> think there is a possible way to open DOCX files, maybe in the
> next version?
> Sincerely,
> Vejas
>
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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:29:47 -0700
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
	<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Trouble with Yahoo!
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How long ago did you have your Yahoo! account?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "chris nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Trouble with Yahoo!


> Hi Joshua,
>
> The Yahoo Web interface is entirely inaccessible, to the best of my
> knowledge. I used to have a Yahoo account before I got my Gmail, and I
> couldn't do anything, not even type an email. If you really want to
> use Yahoo, you'd have to use Microsoft Outlook or another email
> client. Has Yahoo changed their Web interface so it's accessible since
> I switched to Gmail? I believe Nicole Torcolini from this list is an
> intern at Yahoo, if I'm not mistaken, so she might know about this.
>
> Chris
>
> On 9/16/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>> Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
>> Do any of you have a Yahoo account?
>> I'm trying to create an E-mail account with Yahoo, but I'm having 
>> problems.
>> I'm able to do everything, but when I get to "Create my account," I
>> hit enter, but nothing happens.
>> What's going on?
>> Please walk me through this, off list.
>> Thanks, Joshua
>>
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> -- 
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If
> a blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can
> be reduced to a mere physical nuissence." -- Kenneth Jernigan
>
> Visit the I C.A.N. Foundation online at: www.icanfoundation.info for
> information on our foundation and how it helps blind and visually
> impaired children in MD say "I can!"
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