[nabs-l] Slowness of Notetakers was Re: College

Wed Apr 25 21:54:51 UTC 2012

Even worse, then.

Chris Nusbaum

"For we walk by faith, not by sight."
2 Corinthians 5:7

Sent from my BrailleNote

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 sent: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:09:17 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Slowness of Notetakers was Re: College

It was a Classic.
Blessings, Joshua

On 4/23/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
 That's why it was slow, then; it was probably an mPower.  I have
 never had the problem you describe on my Apex, although I did on
 my mPower.  If you can afford an Apex or can get funding from
 rehab or another nonprofit (the Lions Club, for example,) I 
think
 it is a good investment.  I don't have a lot of hands-on
 experience with the PacMate, although I did play around with one
 a little at the Braille Challenge conpetition in Los Angeles and
 have heard some podcast demos of it, and I think the BrailleNote
 is generally easier to navigate than the PacMate.  That's just 
my
 personal opinion; if you are comfortable with the PacMate's
 layout and like it better than the BrailleNote, don't let me
 discourage you!

 Chris Nusbaum

 "For we walk by faith, not by sight."
 2 Corinthians 5:7

 Sent from my BrailleNote

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:14:29 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Slowness of Notetakers was Re: College

 I've experemented with a Braille Note, (one of the older 
models,)
 at
 the 2010 convention.
 It took a few seconds, for what I was Brailling, to show up on
 the
 Braille display.
 I haven't ever had that problem, with the Pac Mate, I used in
 High School.
 I'd say, the slowness, depends on the model.
 I'm interested in the Apex!
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 4/20/12, Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home
 <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
  Please define what you mean by slow.  Have you used a
 BrailleNote?

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 9:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College

  Braille Textbooks are needed for most Math.
  The Pac Mate isn't as slow, as the BN, though.
  Blessings, Joshua

  On 4/20/12, Lanie <readtobuild at gmail.com> wrote:
  I'm not sure.  I may be there, but I don't really know yet.
 I'll
  let you know if I will be.  Thanks for the offer.  I've tried 
to
  work the math on the BrailleNote, but even though you can do 
it,
  it's extremely slow and not good for taking notes.  As for
  getting my book electronically, I would if I could find it and
 if
  it's readable.  Most math isn't readable with a screen reader.

   ----- Original Message -----
  From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:24:15 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College

  I'm just concerned, because she mentioned her back being
 affected
  by
  this constant use of the rolling backpack, with that heavy
  Brailler in
  it.
  That Brailler is extremely heavy, plus with a backpack, with
 huge
  Braille books, it will hurt your back, because I had similar
  problems!
  For my Math classes, to alleviate the problem, in high school, 
I
  was
  fortunate, to have a Brailler, in every classroom, (thanks to 
my
  VR
  Counselors,) (this was when they were cooperating.)
  I have an old Perkins, that I'm willing to get rid of, by the
  Fall, of
  this year, because I won't need it again.
  Lanie, will you be at convention, this year?
  Also, I'm still hoping, that David can market that new
  lightweight
  Brailler, that he showed me, 2 years ago.
  Thanks, Joshua

  On 4/20/12, Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home
  <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
   Joshua,

       You really could rephrase that as, "If possible, you could
  leave the
   Brailler." As has been stated, this does not seem to be an
  option.  What
   works for you does not work for everyone.  I know from
  experience that it is
   necessary to have a Brailler for certain types of math.

   Nicole

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
   To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
   <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
   Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 4:29 AM
   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] College

   Just use the Braille note.
   Leave the Brailler alone.
   Blessings, Joshua

   On 4/20/12, Lanie <readtobuild at gmail.com> wrote:
   Hi all.  I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on
 this.
   I'm taking Calculus 2 in college and have to carry around
  several
   Braille volumes so that I can keep up, a Brailler, my
   BrailleNote, Braille paper, and an APH Graphing Aid for
   Mathematics, all in a huge rolling bag.  I have reason to 
think
   that all this is messing up my back.  I don't know how to
  lighten
   the load, but I can't keep carrxing it.  I've already talked
  with
   the Office for Students with Disabilities coordinator, but 
they
   don't have any Braillers.  How do any others on this list who
  are
   taking classes with huge Braille books and other things like
  this
   do it? Do you use a large bag like I do? Any advice here would
  be
   great! Thanks.

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