[nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants

Mon Aug 13 00:37:21 UTC 2012

Hi, David,

It is true, we do help  when we are able, like by 
widening people's threshholds, and convictions, 
and expanding what is believed to be possible, 
yet, the ways in which we are able to help, often 
are not as immediate as the kind of 
momentary,  on-the-spot,help from which we are 
likely to benefit. Does that happened to make any kind of sense?wrote:
>Thanks, Carly. But, I would even say our chances to help others are more
>than just few. Everyone has talents and knowledge and we are responsible
>for using them to help ourselves and others just like anyone else.
>
>David
>----------------------------------
>David Dodge
>Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
>English Major
>University at Buffalo
>306 Clemens Hall
>Buffalo, NY 14260
>daviddod at buffalo.edu
>
>
>On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>wrote:
>
> > Glad to see David's approach to giving, and receiving, assistance seems a
> > bit healthier. Because, it is true, Ashley, in cases in which we are able
> > to help which granted, are few, we do it gladly. When sighted people see
> > the blind person struggling o do what he routinely takes for granted,
> > instinctively, a first thing they wanna do is lend a hand. It's part of
> > being a member of society.
> > Fact is, you are lacking same access to the senses as everyone else,
> > that's a fact. So, one would argue, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with
> > accepting help, once in a while. Remember, ol' Sighty cares not about your
> > motives for proving yourself by being completely, solo in this here world.
> > Dodge wrote:
> >
> >> Try to feel grateful and not bad about asking people for help when they
> >> give it to you. After all, people ask you for help in different situations
> >> and you kindly give it to them too right?
> >>
> >> David
> >> ------------------------------**----
> >> David Dodge
> >> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
> >> English Major
> >> University at Buffalo
> >> 306 Clemens Hall
> >> Buffalo, NY 14260
> >> daviddod at buffalo.edu
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Ashley Bramlett
> >> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>**wrote:
> >>
> >> > true, I find other customers help me. I kind of feel bad about asking
> >> > though and like it when they ask me first.
> >> > I feel by asking, I'm kind of obligating them to help before going to
> >> > their table or carrying their food away.
> >> > Oh, well, I need the help.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
> >> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:23 PM
> >> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; National
> >> > Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants
> >> >
> >> > Hi, Ashley,
> >> >
> >> >         If the personel behind the counter are
> >> > too busy to help, other customers are often also
> >> > more than happy to grab you a napkin or throw
> >> > away your garbage./12/2012, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi carley, In food courts, that is not always my experience. Perhaps
> >> its
> >> >> where I live. Like you, I may plan ahead about the menu thing. For the
> >> >> drinks thing, they do help me if I ask for it, but they seem busy and
> >> I may
> >> >> have to wait a few minutes. The staff are busy taking orders, filling
> >> them,
> >> >> and taking money from customers. Often, they just seem too busy to help
> >> >> out; so, a friendly customer in line offers to assist me and I take it.
> >> >> They read the drink options and I pick one I want. Some places have
> >> bottle
> >> >> drinks and I find these easier. In this case, they can just hand me the
> >> >> bottle as they hand me the food too. I'm glad you have found the staff
> >> >> helpful because they should be as an accomodation. Ashley -----Original
> >> >> Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:02
> >> PM
> >> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re:
> >> >> [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants Hi, Ashley, If I know I
> >> will
> >> >> be visiting a particular restaurant who has their menu Online, I
> >> definitely
> >> >> read it, selecting what sounds good ahead of time. If such a menu is
> >> not
> >> >> available I just ask the folks behind the counter, or on the floor to
> >> read
> >> >> it. As for the food court, the host personnel who seat me, are usually
> >> more
> >> >> than happy to help out by carrying, even getting the drink. After all,
> >> >> that's what there there for right? CarHi all, Food courts are crowded
> >> noisy
> >> >> places. They hand you the food on a tray. But often the customer has
> >> to get
> >> >> their own drink from a row of drink spickits. I am talking about the
> >> row of
> >> >> them where the cups are at the end and the drinks are gotten by
> >> pressing
> >> >> something to release the liquid. So any tips on them?  How do you deal
> >> with
> >> >> these drink areas? Does someone help you? I suppose you could memorize
> >> it
> >> >> if you went there before. How do you find an empty table since your
> >> hands
> >> >> are full with the tray, unless you ask someone to carry it for you.
> >> Then,
> >> >> how do you find the trashcan? Do you explore where the trashcans are
> >> before
> >> >> you get your food? Do you ask someone to read the menu to you while in
> >> >> line, or do it beforehand? Some venues have their menu online which I
> >> use
> >> >> if possible; other times they donÃ¢€™t. Next, how do you deal with
> >> >> restestaurants requiring you to order at the counter and pick it up at
> >> the
> >> >> counter? A fast food place usually gives you the food right there at
> >> the
> >> >> counter. You do not  sit and wait. So that isnÃ¢€™t an issue. If I
> >> have to
> >> >> say, waiwait for fries, I do so right at the counter, as anyone else
> >> would.
> >> >> Restaurants where you do this include: Johnny Rockets in some locations
> >> >> deli places such as Philadelphia mikes Fudruckers Corner Bakery How do
> >> you
> >> >> find the counter and locate your seat? For me, IÃ¢€™m not good at
> >> >> revreversing routes, and all tables look the same! IÃ¢€™m am asking
> >> since I
> >> >> may order at such a restaurant with a blind friend and could use some
> >> tips
> >> >> on this. Thanks. Ashley ______________________________**
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