[nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants

David Dodge daviddod at buffalo.edu
Mon Aug 13 00:42:33 UTC 2012


It makes a great deal of sense. However, I would argue that immediate help
is rarely as valuable or enduring as that help which takes time.

David
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David Dodge
Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
English Major
University at Buffalo
306 Clemens Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
daviddod at buffalo.edu


On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net>wrote:

> Hi, David,
>
> It is true, we do help  when we are able, like by widening people's
> threshholds, and convictions, and expanding what is believed to be
> possible, yet, the ways in which we are able to help, often are not as
> immediate as the kind of momentary,  on-the-spot,help from which we are
> likely to benefit. Does that happened to make any kind of sense?wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Carly. But, I would even say our chances to help others are more
>> than just few. Everyone has talents and knowledge and we are responsible
>> for using them to help ourselves and others just like anyone else.
>>
>> David
>> ------------------------------**----
>> David Dodge
>> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
>> English Major
>> University at Buffalo
>> 306 Clemens Hall
>> Buffalo, NY 14260
>> daviddod at buffalo.edu
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Glad to see David's approach to giving, and receiving, assistance seems
>> a
>> > bit healthier. Because, it is true, Ashley, in cases in which we are
>> able
>> > to help which granted, are few, we do it gladly. When sighted people see
>> > the blind person struggling o do what he routinely takes for granted,
>> > instinctively, a first thing they wanna do is lend a hand. It's part of
>> > being a member of society.
>> > Fact is, you are lacking same access to the senses as everyone else,
>> > that's a fact. So, one would argue, there's nothing whatsoever wrong
>> with
>> > accepting help, once in a while. Remember, ol' Sighty cares not about
>> your
>> > motives for proving yourself by being completely, solo in this here
>> world.
>> > Dodge wrote:
>> >
>> >> Try to feel grateful and not bad about asking people for help when they
>> >> give it to you. After all, people ask you for help in different
>> situations
>> >> and you kindly give it to them too right?
>> >>
>> >> David
>> >> ------------------------------****----
>> >> David Dodge
>> >> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
>> >> English Major
>> >> University at Buffalo
>> >> 306 Clemens Hall
>> >> Buffalo, NY 14260
>> >> daviddod at buffalo.edu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Ashley Bramlett
>> >> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>****wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > true, I find other customers help me. I kind of feel bad about asking
>> >> > though and like it when they ask me first.
>> >> > I feel by asking, I'm kind of obligating them to help before going to
>> >> > their table or carrying their food away.
>> >> > Oh, well, I need the help.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
>> >> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:23 PM
>> >> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; National
>> >> > Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi, Ashley,
>> >> >
>> >> >         If the personel behind the counter are
>> >> > too busy to help, other customers are often also
>> >> > more than happy to grab you a napkin or throw
>> >> > away your garbage./12/2012, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi carley, In food courts, that is not always my experience. Perhaps
>> >> its
>> >> >> where I live. Like you, I may plan ahead about the menu thing. For
>> the
>> >> >> drinks thing, they do help me if I ask for it, but they seem busy
>> and
>> >> I may
>> >> >> have to wait a few minutes. The staff are busy taking orders,
>> filling
>> >> them,
>> >> >> and taking money from customers. Often, they just seem too busy to
>> help
>> >> >> out; so, a friendly customer in line offers to assist me and I take
>> it.
>> >> >> They read the drink options and I pick one I want. Some places have
>> >> bottle
>> >> >> drinks and I find these easier. In this case, they can just hand me
>> the
>> >> >> bottle as they hand me the food too. I'm glad you have found the
>> staff
>> >> >> helpful because they should be as an accomodation. Ashley
>> -----Original
>> >> >> Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012
>> 7:02
>> >> PM
>> >> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re:
>> >> >> [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants Hi, Ashley, If I know I
>> >> will
>> >> >> be visiting a particular restaurant who has their menu Online, I
>> >> definitely
>> >> >> read it, selecting what sounds good ahead of time. If such a menu is
>> >> not
>> >> >> available I just ask the folks behind the counter, or on the floor
>> to
>> >> read
>> >> >> it. As for the food court, the host personnel who seat me, are
>> usually
>> >> more
>> >> >> than happy to help out by carrying, even getting the drink. After
>> all,
>> >> >> that's what there there for right? CarHi all, Food courts are
>> crowded
>> >> noisy
>> >> >> places. They hand you the food on a tray. But often the customer has
>> >> to get
>> >> >> their own drink from a row of drink spickits. I am talking about the
>> >> row of
>> >> >> them where the cups are at the end and the drinks are gotten by
>> >> pressing
>> >> >> something to release the liquid. So any tips on them?  How do you
>> deal
>> >> with
>> >> >> these drink areas? Does someone help you? I suppose you could
>> memorize
>> >> it
>> >> >> if you went there before. How do you find an empty table since your
>> >> hands
>> >> >> are full with the tray, unless you ask someone to carry it for you.
>> >> Then,
>> >> >> how do you find the trashcan? Do you explore where the trashcans are
>> >> before
>> >> >> you get your food? Do you ask someone to read the menu to you while
>> in
>> >> >> line, or do it beforehand? Some venues have their menu online which
>> I
>> >> use
>> >> >> if possible; other times they don̢۪t. Next, how do you deal with
>> >> >> restestaurants requiring you to order at the counter and pick it up
>> at
>> >> the
>> >> >> counter? A fast food place usually gives you the food right there at
>> >> the
>> >> >> counter. You do not  sit and wait. So that isn̢۪t an issue. If I
>> >> have to
>> >> >> say, waiwait for fries, I do so right at the counter, as anyone else
>> >> would.
>> >> >> Restaurants where you do this include: Johnny Rockets in some
>> locations
>> >> >> deli places such as Philadelphia mikes Fudruckers Corner Bakery How
>> do
>> >> you
>> >> >> find the counter and locate your seat? For me, I̢۪m not good at
>> >> >> revreversing routes, and all tables look the same! I̢۪m am asking
>> >> since I
>> >> >> may order at such a restaurant with a blind friend and could use
>> some
>> >> tips
>> >> >> on this. Thanks. Ashley ______________________________****
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