[nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants

Mon Aug 13 00:49:50 UTC 2012

Honestly, and this may not be the best advice, but as far as food court
type situations go I always try to frequent them when I'm going with people
already. That is, I'm not alone I'm going with one other person or a group
of other people. This way, I can ask them for some guidance if I need it.

If this isn't the case and I am alone I definitely do use any landmarks or
really just say to someone can you assist me in finding a seat.

Not sure there is any better way.

David
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David Dodge
Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
English Major
University at Buffalo
306 Clemens Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
daviddod at buffalo.edu

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Ashley Bramlett
<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>wrote:

> While I do help in other ways, I still feel awkward about going up to a
> busy stranger asking for help although I do it.
> Keep in mind what they are doing. They are ordering their food probably
>  on a lunch break and if they are not working, they probably want a quick
> bite to go elsewhere. After all, if they're not in a hurry, they may as
> well have gone to a sit down restaurant.
> They have kids or husbands to meet at the table; if eating there, they
> want to run to a table just as everyone else does as space is limited.
> So, its just that I feel I'm intruding; sometimes they say they are in a
> hurry or turn to someone else and say "can you help that girl?" I don't
> mind; after all, they need to get on to eat and cannot help me but find
> someone who can. One thing  I try to do is listen for the drink area and
> move to this counter and get help there. After all everyone is filling
> their cups there and might be able to help me more easily. After people
> pay, they are running off to a table.
>
> Any tips on finding seats? I usually just look for them and listen for
> people; if I hear people at a table, I do not head there. If someone wants
> to either carry my tray or guide me to a table, I gladly take it since I
> just want to sit down, not wander around looking for a seat while my food
> gets cold.
> How do you find your table if you have to fetch your food at the counter
> when its ready? I guess I'd use a landmark to find my table and count
> tables.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: David Dodge
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:18 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants
>
> Thanks, Carly. But, I would even say our chances to help others are more
> than just few. Everyone has talents and knowledge and we are responsible
> for using them to help ourselves and others just like anyone else.
>
> David
> ------------------------------**----
> David Dodge
> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
> English Major
> University at Buffalo
> 306 Clemens Hall
> Buffalo, NY 14260
> daviddod at buffalo.edu
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
> >wrote:
>
>  Glad to see David's approach to giving, and receiving, assistance seems a
>> bit healthier. Because, it is true, Ashley, in cases in which we are able
>> to help which granted, are few, we do it gladly. When sighted people see
>> the blind person struggling o do what he routinely takes for granted,
>> instinctively, a first thing they wanna do is lend a hand. It's part of
>> being a member of society.
>> Fact is, you are lacking same access to the senses as everyone else,
>> that's a fact. So, one would argue, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with
>> accepting help, once in a while. Remember, ol' Sighty cares not about your
>> motives for proving yourself by being completely, solo in this here world.
>> Dodge wrote:
>>
>>  Try to feel grateful and not bad about asking people for help when they
>>> give it to you. After all, people ask you for help in different
>>> situations
>>> and you kindly give it to them too right?
>>>
>>> David
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>>> Buffalo, NY 14260
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Ashley Bramlett
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>****wrote:
>>>
>>> > true, I find other customers help me. I kind of feel bad about asking
>>> > though and like it when they ask me first.
>>> > I feel by asking, I'm kind of obligating them to help before going to
>>> > their table or carrying their food away.
>>> > Oh, well, I need the help.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
>>> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:23 PM
>>> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; National
>>> > Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants
>>> >
>>> > Hi, Ashley,
>>> >
>>> >         If the personel behind the counter are
>>> > too busy to help, other customers are often also
>>> > more than happy to grab you a napkin or throw
>>> > away your garbage./12/2012, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi carley, In food courts, that is not always my experience. Perhaps
>>> its
>>> >> where I live. Like you, I may plan ahead about the menu thing. For the
>>> >> drinks thing, they do help me if I ask for it, but they seem busy and
>>> I may
>>> >> have to wait a few minutes. The staff are busy taking orders, filling
>>> them,
>>> >> and taking money from customers. Often, they just seem too busy to >>
>>> help
>>> >> out; so, a friendly customer in line offers to assist me and I take
>>> >> it.
>>> >> They read the drink options and I pick one I want. Some places have
>>> bottle
>>> >> drinks and I find these easier. In this case, they can just hand me
>>> >> the
>>> >> bottle as they hand me the food too. I'm glad you have found the staff
>>> >> helpful because they should be as an accomodation. >> Ashley
>>> -----Original
>>> >> Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:02
>>> PM
>>> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re:
>>> >> [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants Hi, Ashley, If I know I
>>> will
>>> >> be visiting a particular restaurant who has their menu Online, I
>>> definitely
>>> >> read it, selecting what sounds good ahead of time. If such a menu is
>>> not
>>> >> available I just ask the folks behind the counter, or on the floor to
>>> read
>>> >> it. As for the food court, the host personnel who seat me, are usually
>>> more
>>> >> than happy to help out by carrying, even getting the drink. After all,
>>> >> that's what there there for right? CarHi all, Food courts are crowded
>>> noisy
>>> >> places. They hand you the food on a tray. But often the customer has
>>> to get
>>> >> their own drink from a row of drink spickits. I am talking about the
>>> row of
>>> >> them where the cups are at the end and the drinks are gotten by
>>> pressing
>>> >> something to release the liquid. So any tips on them?  How do you deal
>>> with
>>> >> these drink areas? Does someone help you? I suppose you could memorize
>>> it
>>> >> if you went there before. How do you find an empty table since your
>>> hands
>>> >> are full with the tray, unless you ask someone to carry it for you.
>>> Then,
>>> >> how do you find the trashcan? Do you explore where the trashcans are
>>> before
>>> >> you get your food? Do you ask someone to read the menu to you while in
>>> >> line, or do it beforehand? Some venues have their menu online which I
>>> use
>>> >> if possible; other times they donÃ¢€™t. Next, how do you deal with
>>> >> restestaurants requiring you to order at the counter and pick it up at
>>> the
>>> >> counter? A fast food place usually gives you the food right there at
>>> the
>>> >> counter. You do not  sit and wait. So that isnÃ¢€™t an issue. If I
>>> have to
>>> >> say, waiwait for fries, I do so right at the counter, as anyone else
>>> would.
>>> >> Restaurants where you do this include: Johnny Rockets in some >>
>>> locations
>>> >> deli places such as Philadelphia mikes Fudruckers Corner Bakery How do
>>> you
>>> >> find the counter and locate your seat? For me, IÃ¢€™m not good at
>>> >> revreversing routes, and all tables look the same! IÃ¢€™m am asking
>>> since I
>>> >> may order at such a restaurant with a blind friend and could use some
>>> tips
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