[nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants

Mon Aug 13 00:39:24 UTC 2012

While I do help in other ways, I still feel awkward about going up to a busy 
stranger asking for help although I do it.
Keep in mind what they are doing. They are ordering their food probably  on 
a lunch break and if they are not working, they probably want a quick bite 
to go elsewhere. After all, if they're not in a hurry, they may as well have 
gone to a sit down restaurant.
They have kids or husbands to meet at the table; if eating there, they want 
to run to a table just as everyone else does as space is limited.
So, its just that I feel I'm intruding; sometimes they say they are in a 
hurry or turn to someone else and say "can you help that girl?" I don't 
mind; after all, they need to get on to eat and cannot help me but find 
someone who can. One thing  I try to do is listen for the drink area and 
move to this counter and get help there. After all everyone is filling their 
cups there and might be able to help me more easily. After people pay, they 
are running off to a table.

Any tips on finding seats? I usually just look for them and listen for 
people; if I hear people at a table, I do not head there. If someone wants 
to either carry my tray or guide me to a table, I gladly take it since I 
just want to sit down, not wander around looking for a seat while my food 
gets cold.
How do you find your table if you have to fetch your food at the counter 
when its ready? I guess I'd use a landmark to find my table and count 
tables.

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Dodge
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:18 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants

Thanks, Carly. But, I would even say our chances to help others are more
than just few. Everyone has talents and knowledge and we are responsible
for using them to help ourselves and others just like anyone else.

David
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David Dodge
Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
English Major
University at Buffalo
306 Clemens Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
daviddod at buffalo.edu

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Carly Mihalakis 
<carlymih at comcast.net>wrote:

> Glad to see David's approach to giving, and receiving, assistance seems a
> bit healthier. Because, it is true, Ashley, in cases in which we are able
> to help which granted, are few, we do it gladly. When sighted people see
> the blind person struggling o do what he routinely takes for granted,
> instinctively, a first thing they wanna do is lend a hand. It's part of
> being a member of society.
> Fact is, you are lacking same access to the senses as everyone else,
> that's a fact. So, one would argue, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with
> accepting help, once in a while. Remember, ol' Sighty cares not about your
> motives for proving yourself by being completely, solo in this here world.
> Dodge wrote:
>
>> Try to feel grateful and not bad about asking people for help when they
>> give it to you. After all, people ask you for help in different 
>> situations
>> and you kindly give it to them too right?
>>
>> David
>> ------------------------------**----
>> David Dodge
>> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
>> English Major
>> University at Buffalo
>> 306 Clemens Hall
>> Buffalo, NY 14260
>> daviddod at buffalo.edu
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Ashley Bramlett
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>**wrote:
>>
>> > true, I find other customers help me. I kind of feel bad about asking
>> > though and like it when they ask me first.
>> > I feel by asking, I'm kind of obligating them to help before going to
>> > their table or carrying their food away.
>> > Oh, well, I need the help.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
>> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:23 PM
>> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; National
>> > Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants
>> >
>> > Hi, Ashley,
>> >
>> >         If the personel behind the counter are
>> > too busy to help, other customers are often also
>> > more than happy to grab you a napkin or throw
>> > away your garbage./12/2012, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi carley, In food courts, that is not always my experience. Perhaps
>> its
>> >> where I live. Like you, I may plan ahead about the menu thing. For the
>> >> drinks thing, they do help me if I ask for it, but they seem busy and
>> I may
>> >> have to wait a few minutes. The staff are busy taking orders, filling
>> them,
>> >> and taking money from customers. Often, they just seem too busy to 
>> >> help
>> >> out; so, a friendly customer in line offers to assist me and I take 
>> >> it.
>> >> They read the drink options and I pick one I want. Some places have
>> bottle
>> >> drinks and I find these easier. In this case, they can just hand me 
>> >> the
>> >> bottle as they hand me the food too. I'm glad you have found the staff
>> >> helpful because they should be as an accomodation. 
>> >> Ashley -----Original
>> >> Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:02
>> PM
>> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re:
>> >> [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants Hi, Ashley, If I know I
>> will
>> >> be visiting a particular restaurant who has their menu Online, I
>> definitely
>> >> read it, selecting what sounds good ahead of time. If such a menu is
>> not
>> >> available I just ask the folks behind the counter, or on the floor to
>> read
>> >> it. As for the food court, the host personnel who seat me, are usually
>> more
>> >> than happy to help out by carrying, even getting the drink. After all,
>> >> that's what there there for right? CarHi all, Food courts are crowded
>> noisy
>> >> places. They hand you the food on a tray. But often the customer has
>> to get
>> >> their own drink from a row of drink spickits. I am talking about the
>> row of
>> >> them where the cups are at the end and the drinks are gotten by
>> pressing
>> >> something to release the liquid. So any tips on them?  How do you deal
>> with
>> >> these drink areas? Does someone help you? I suppose you could memorize
>> it
>> >> if you went there before. How do you find an empty table since your
>> hands
>> >> are full with the tray, unless you ask someone to carry it for you.
>> Then,
>> >> how do you find the trashcan? Do you explore where the trashcans are
>> before
>> >> you get your food? Do you ask someone to read the menu to you while in
>> >> line, or do it beforehand? Some venues have their menu online which I
>> use
>> >> if possible; other times they donÃ¢€™t. Next, how do you deal with
>> >> restestaurants requiring you to order at the counter and pick it up at
>> the
>> >> counter? A fast food place usually gives you the food right there at
>> the
>> >> counter. You do not  sit and wait. So that isnÃ¢€™t an issue. If I
>> have to
>> >> say, waiwait for fries, I do so right at the counter, as anyone else
>> would.
>> >> Restaurants where you do this include: Johnny Rockets in some 
>> >> locations
>> >> deli places such as Philadelphia mikes Fudruckers Corner Bakery How do
>> you
>> >> find the counter and locate your seat? For me, IÃ¢€™m not good at
>> >> revreversing routes, and all tables look the same! IÃ¢€™m am asking
>> since I
>> >> may order at such a restaurant with a blind friend and could use some
>> tips
>> >> on this. Thanks. Ashley ______________________________**
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