[nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants

[Deb Mendelsohn]

Hi all,
I always ask for my food to go simply because I will drop the tray.
 Handling a bag is much easier.  McDonald's will fill my ice tea
unsweetened from the drive through area.  Most places I think will fill
drinks for you.
Deb

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:42 PM, David Dodge <daviddod at buffalo.edu> wrote:

> It makes a great deal of sense. However, I would argue that immediate help
> is rarely as valuable or enduring as that help which takes time.
>
> David
> ----------------------------------
> David Dodge
> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
> English Major
> University at Buffalo
> 306 Clemens Hall
> Buffalo, NY 14260
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>
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi, David,
> >
> > It is true, we do help  when we are able, like by widening people's
> > threshholds, and convictions, and expanding what is believed to be
> > possible, yet, the ways in which we are able to help, often are not as
> > immediate as the kind of momentary,  on-the-spot,help from which we are
> > likely to benefit. Does that happened to make any kind of sense?wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks, Carly. But, I would even say our chances to help others are more
> >> than just few. Everyone has talents and knowledge and we are responsible
> >> for using them to help ourselves and others just like anyone else.
> >>
> >> David
> >> ------------------------------**----
> >> David Dodge
> >> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
> >> English Major
> >> University at Buffalo
> >> 306 Clemens Hall
> >> Buffalo, NY 14260
> >> daviddod at buffalo.edu
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Glad to see David's approach to giving, and receiving, assistance
> seems
> >> a
> >> > bit healthier. Because, it is true, Ashley, in cases in which we are
> >> able
> >> > to help which granted, are few, we do it gladly. When sighted people
> see
> >> > the blind person struggling o do what he routinely takes for granted,
> >> > instinctively, a first thing they wanna do is lend a hand. It's part
> of
> >> > being a member of society.
> >> > Fact is, you are lacking same access to the senses as everyone else,
> >> > that's a fact. So, one would argue, there's nothing whatsoever wrong
> >> with
> >> > accepting help, once in a while. Remember, ol' Sighty cares not about
> >> your
> >> > motives for proving yourself by being completely, solo in this here
> >> world.
> >> > Dodge wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Try to feel grateful and not bad about asking people for help when
> they
> >> >> give it to you. After all, people ask you for help in different
> >> situations
> >> >> and you kindly give it to them too right?
> >> >>
> >> >> David
> >> >> ------------------------------****----
> >> >> David Dodge
> >> >> Diversity in Disability Planning Committee Chairperson
> >> >> English Major
> >> >> University at Buffalo
> >> >> 306 Clemens Hall
> >> >> Buffalo, NY 14260
> >> >> daviddod at buffalo.edu
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Ashley Bramlett
> >> >> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>****wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > true, I find other customers help me. I kind of feel bad about
> asking
> >> >> > though and like it when they ask me first.
> >> >> > I feel by asking, I'm kind of obligating them to help before going
> to
> >> >> > their table or carrying their food away.
> >> >> > Oh, well, I need the help.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
> >> >> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:23 PM
> >> >> > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; National
> >> >> > Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi, Ashley,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >         If the personel behind the counter are
> >> >> > too busy to help, other customers are often also
> >> >> > more than happy to grab you a napkin or throw
> >> >> > away your garbage./12/2012, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi carley, In food courts, that is not always my experience.
> Perhaps
> >> >> its
> >> >> >> where I live. Like you, I may plan ahead about the menu thing. For
> >> the
> >> >> >> drinks thing, they do help me if I ask for it, but they seem busy
> >> and
> >> >> I may
> >> >> >> have to wait a few minutes. The staff are busy taking orders,
> >> filling
> >> >> them,
> >> >> >> and taking money from customers. Often, they just seem too busy to
> >> help
> >> >> >> out; so, a friendly customer in line offers to assist me and I
> take
> >> it.
> >> >> >> They read the drink options and I pick one I want. Some places
> have
> >> >> bottle
> >> >> >> drinks and I find these easier. In this case, they can just hand
> me
> >> the
> >> >> >> bottle as they hand me the food too. I'm glad you have found the
> >> staff
> >> >> >> helpful because they should be as an accomodation. Ashley
> >> -----Original
> >> >> >> Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012
> >> 7:02
> >> >> PM
> >> >> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject:
> Re:
> >> >> >> [nabs-l] food courts and counter restaurants Hi, Ashley, If I
> know I
> >> >> will
> >> >> >> be visiting a particular restaurant who has their menu Online, I
> >> >> definitely
> >> >> >> read it, selecting what sounds good ahead of time. If such a menu
> is
> >> >> not
> >> >> >> available I just ask the folks behind the counter, or on the floor
> >> to
> >> >> read
> >> >> >> it. As for the food court, the host personnel who seat me, are
> >> usually
> >> >> more
> >> >> >> than happy to help out by carrying, even getting the drink. After
> >> all,
> >> >> >> that's what there there for right? CarHi all, Food courts are
> >> crowded
> >> >> noisy
> >> >> >> places. They hand you the food on a tray. But often the customer
> has
> >> >> to get
> >> >> >> their own drink from a row of drink spickits. I am talking about
> the
> >> >> row of
> >> >> >> them where the cups are at the end and the drinks are gotten by
> >> >> pressing
> >> >> >> something to release the liquid. So any tips on them?  How do you
> >> deal
> >> >> with
> >> >> >> these drink areas? Does someone help you? I suppose you could
> >> memorize
> >> >> it
> >> >> >> if you went there before. How do you find an empty table since
> your
> >> >> hands
> >> >> >> are full with the tray, unless you ask someone to carry it for
> you.
> >> >> Then,
> >> >> >> how do you find the trashcan? Do you explore where the trashcans
> are
> >> >> before
> >> >> >> you get your food? Do you ask someone to read the menu to you
> while
> >> in
> >> >> >> line, or do it beforehand? Some venues have their menu online
> which
> >> I
> >> >> use
> >> >> >> if possible; other times they don̢۪t. Next, how do you deal with
> >> >> >> restestaurants requiring you to order at the counter and pick it
> up
> >> at
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> counter? A fast food place usually gives you the food right there
> at
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> counter. You do not  sit and wait. So that isn̢۪t an issue. If I
> >> >> have to
> >> >> >> say, waiwait for fries, I do so right at the counter, as anyone
> else
> >> >> would.
> >> >> >> Restaurants where you do this include: Johnny Rockets in some
> >> locations
> >> >> >> deli places such as Philadelphia mikes Fudruckers Corner Bakery
> How
> >> do
> >> >> you
> >> >> >> find the counter and locate your seat? For me, I̢۪m not good at
> >> >> >> revreversing routes, and all tables look the same! I̢۪m am
> asking
> >> >> since I
> >> >> >> may order at such a restaurant with a blind friend and could use
> >> some
> >> >> tips
> >> >> >> on this. Thanks. Ashley ______________________________****
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