[nabs-l] Advanced foreign language advice needed

[Danielle Sykora]

Hi everyone,
Yes, I agree that we should be able to take our own notes. The ability
to take notes is a very important skill. It doesn't seem practical to
always expect to have someone else take notes for you.
Just my opinion,
Danielle

On 8/24/12, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
> They have note takers for school and assistances for work. I have 1
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 24, 2012, at 17:00, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>
>> My view may not be popular -- but, it seems to me that as blind persons we
>> need to be able to take notes as does everybody else.  Use of a human note
>> taker, while it may seem expedient, isn't going to prepare you for the
>> real world.  Unless you have a problem, in addition to blindness, most
>> employers aren't, and shouldn't provide you with a note taker.  We need to
>> have the tools to study as everybody else does.
>>
>> I would use the Braille note to take notes in class, and worry about
>> powerpoints etc. later.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> At 09:10 PM 8/21/2012, you wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> If this is a state college, if you ask for a note taker, they can't deny
>>> you a note taker. If they say that is against their policy, say that is
>>> BS and you can sue them.
>>> If they are a private college that put you on a 504 plan the case is the
>>> same. They can provide you accommodation if it isn't unreasonable.
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:37 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Advanced foreign language advice needed
>>>
>>> Aleeha,
>>> Well, that is too bad because I think a foregin language class is one
>>> where
>>> a notetaker would be very  beneficial.
>>> If you feel you miss material in class, you can always go to the
>>> professor's
>>> office hours. In my experience, they are generally real willing to help
>>> and
>>> repeat or clarify any lecture material.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: aleeha dudley
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:28 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Advanced foreign language advice needed
>>>
>>> I use a note taker in science classes and am not ashamed to say it. The
>>> university does not provide these services for foreign language classes.
>>> Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.
>>>
>>> Aleeha Dudley
>>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
>>> Changing what it means to be blind
>>>
>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:40 PM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aleeha,
>>>> Sounds like a handful. I would not be able to read notes on a laptop,
>>>> take notes and listen at the same time even if it was in english!
>>>> What teaching style does she use? I only took foreign language in high
>>>> school; I would not want to try in college due to no braille
>>>> availability. In high school I was accomodated with hard copy braille
>>>> and braille texts which was vital to my success; college you have to do
>>>> auditorily.
>>>>
>>>> What I'd suggest is not reading the class notes in class. Do you need to
>>>> read them for a worksheet or group activity? If so, could someone else
>>>> read them with you? Sometimes my professors have a study guide but I
>>>> follow auditorily since I ask the professor to speak out the questions
>>>> before going over them. If in a group of students, I try and get them to
>>>> read the handout to me so I can participate.
>>>> Instead of in class, get any handouts ahead of time and read them. If
>>>> you feel you need them in class, is it possible to put the handout file
>>>> on your braille note and switch files from your notes and class notes?
>>>>
>>>> Another idea which might be quicker for accessing notes is to emboss the
>>>> class notes. Do you have an embosser of yours or the schools?
>>>> I find that i can  skim a hard copy document faster than a braille
>>>> display file.
>>>> Also recording class might help. Another idea, which many would disagree
>>>> with, is have a notetaker. Your school should provide a notetaker upon
>>>> request for you. Languages classes go fast and I think it would be hard
>>>> to take notes as fast as they go especially when other students can copy
>>>> notes from the board or slide at their pace and you have to do it
>>>> right as the teacher talks.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Ashley
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: aleeha dudley
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:08 AM
>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Advanced foreign language advice needed
>>>>
>>>> I was wondering if any of you have taken 300 level foreign language
>>>> classes and if so, how did you keep track of all that is happening in
>>>> the class? I am finding it difficult to read the class notes on my
>>>> laptop, take my own notes on my Braillenote apex, and also try to
>>>> comprehend what the instructor is saying since it is all in Spanish. Let
>>>> me know what you think. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aleeha Dudley
>>>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
>>>> Changing what it means to be blind
>>
>>
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