[nabs-l] Advanced foreign language advice needed

Fri Aug 24 21:54:44 UTC 2012

I just use my laptop iPad or my one on one 

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 24, 2012, at 17:27, Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Yes, I agree that we should be able to take our own notes. The ability
> to take notes is a very important skill. It doesn't seem practical to
> always expect to have someone else take notes for you.
> Just my opinion,
> Danielle
> 
> On 8/24/12, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> They have note takers for school and assistances for work. I have 1
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Aug 24, 2012, at 17:00, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> My view may not be popular -- but, it seems to me that as blind persons we
>>> need to be able to take notes as does everybody else.  Use of a human note
>>> taker, while it may seem expedient, isn't going to prepare you for the
>>> real world.  Unless you have a problem, in addition to blindness, most
>>> employers aren't, and shouldn't provide you with a note taker.  We need to
>>> have the tools to study as everybody else does.
>>> 
>>> I would use the Braille note to take notes in class, and worry about
>>> powerpoints etc. later.
>>> 
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> At 09:10 PM 8/21/2012, you wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> If this is a state college, if you ask for a note taker, they can't deny
>>>> you a note taker. If they say that is against their policy, say that is
>>>> BS and you can sue them.
>>>> If they are a private college that put you on a 504 plan the case is the
>>>> same. They can provide you accommodation if it isn't unreasonable.
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 6:37 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Advanced foreign language advice needed
>>>> 
>>>> Aleeha,
>>>> Well, that is too bad because I think a foregin language class is one
>>>> where
>>>> a notetaker would be very  beneficial.
>>>> If you feel you miss material in class, you can always go to the
>>>> professor's
>>>> office hours. In my experience, they are generally real willing to help
>>>> and
>>>> repeat or clarify any lecture material.
>>>> 
>>>> Ashley
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: aleeha dudley
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:28 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Advanced foreign language advice needed
>>>> 
>>>> I use a note taker in science classes and am not ashamed to say it. The
>>>> university does not provide these services for foreign language classes.
>>>> Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.
>>>> 
>>>> Aleeha Dudley
>>>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
>>>> Changing what it means to be blind
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2012, at 6:40 PM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Aleeha,
>>>>> Sounds like a handful. I would not be able to read notes on a laptop,
>>>>> take notes and listen at the same time even if it was in english!
>>>>> What teaching style does she use? I only took foreign language in high
>>>>> school; I would not want to try in college due to no braille
>>>>> availability. In high school I was accomodated with hard copy braille
>>>>> and braille texts which was vital to my success; college you have to do
>>>>> auditorily.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I'd suggest is not reading the class notes in class. Do you need to
>>>>> read them for a worksheet or group activity? If so, could someone else
>>>>> read them with you? Sometimes my professors have a study guide but I
>>>>> follow auditorily since I ask the professor to speak out the questions
>>>>> before going over them. If in a group of students, I try and get them to
>>>>> read the handout to me so I can participate.
>>>>> Instead of in class, get any handouts ahead of time and read them. If
>>>>> you feel you need them in class, is it possible to put the handout file
>>>>> on your braille note and switch files from your notes and class notes?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another idea which might be quicker for accessing notes is to emboss the
>>>>> class notes. Do you have an embosser of yours or the schools?
>>>>> I find that i can  skim a hard copy document faster than a braille
>>>>> display file.
>>>>> Also recording class might help. Another idea, which many would disagree
>>>>> with, is have a notetaker. Your school should provide a notetaker upon
>>>>> request for you. Languages classes go fast and I think it would be hard
>>>>> to take notes as fast as they go especially when other students can copy
>>>>> notes from the board or slide at their pace and you have to do it
>>>>> right as the teacher talks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: aleeha dudley
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:08 AM
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Advanced foreign language advice needed
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was wondering if any of you have taken 300 level foreign language
>>>>> classes and if so, how did you keep track of all that is happening in
>>>>> the class? I am finding it difficult to read the class notes on my
>>>>> laptop, take my own notes on my Braillenote apex, and also try to
>>>>> comprehend what the instructor is saying since it is all in Spanish. Let
>>>>> me know what you think. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aleeha Dudley
>>>>> President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
>>>>> Changing what it means to be blind
>>> 
>>> 
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