[nabs-l] school is not accommodating

Chris Nusbaum dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Mon Jan 23 22:00:10 UTC 2012 

It=20uses=20a=20different=20synthesizer,=20called=20eSpeak=20as=20default,=
=20but=20
you=20can=20get=20Eloquence=20versions=20for=20it.=20=20I=20personally=20do=
n't=20like=20
eSpeak,=20so=20use=20either=20Eloquence=20or=20DecTalk=20for=20NVDA.

Chris

"The=20real=20problem=20of=20blindness=20is=20not=20the=20loss=20of=20eyesi=
ght.=20=20The=20
real=20problem=20is=20the=20misunderstanding=20and=20lack=20of=20education=
=20that=20
exists.=20=20If=20a=20blind=20person=20has=20the=20proper=20training=20and=
=20
opportunity,=20blindness=20can=20be=20reduced=20to=20a=20mere=20physical=20=

nuisance."
--=20Kenneth=20Jernigan

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Sun,=2022=20Jan=202012=2017:59:18=20-0500
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20school=20is=20not=20accommodating

good=20idea;=20does=20nvda=20sound=20like=20jaws=20and=20where=20is=20the=20=
website?

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Joshua=20Lester
Sent:=20Sunday,=20January=2022,=202012=205:53=20PM
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20school=20is=20not=20accommodating

Ashley:
Why=20not=20ask=20them=20to=20go=20to=20NVDA's=20Website,=20and=20download=
=20it=20on=20
every=20computer?
They=20don't=20need=20licenses,=20with=20NVDA.
Blessings,=20Joshua

On=201/22/12,=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>=20wrote:
=20Amy,
=20I=20am=20pretty=20sure=20I=20will=20get=20a=20laptop;=20I'll=20share=20i=
t=20with=20my=20dad=20
though.
=20They
=20can=20get=20expensive,=20so=20its=20best=20if=20more=20than=20one=20pers=
on=20use=20it.
=20As=20for=20mobility,=20I=20did=20receive=20an=20orientation=20by=20a=20m=
obility=20
instructor.
=20Also,=20my=20parents=20helped=20me=20out.=20=20But=20its=20just=20that=20=
the=20new=20
student=20union
=20building=20with=20the=20bookstore,=20student=20caf=E9=20and=20more=20in=
=20it=20is=20laid=20
out
=20weird;
=20its=20not=20a=20=20particular=20shape;=20just=20a=20lot=20of=20open=20sp=
ace.=20=20I'll=20do=20
the=20best=20I
=20can=20with=20it=20though.=20=20The=20counseling=20center=20is=20in=20a=20=
corner=20so=20it=20
shouldn't
=20be
=20too=20hard=20to=20find.

=20I'm=20looking=20for=20readers=20as=20well.=20=20So=20looks=20like=20I'll=
=20have=20to=20
make=20my=20own
=20accomodations.=20=20However,=20I=20still=20will=20plan=20to=20speak=20to=
=20whomever=20
purchased
=20jaws;=20someone=20in=20the=20office=20of=20the=20vice=20president.=20=20=
I=20find=20it=20
rediculous
=20they
=20don't=20have=20enough=20licenses;=20I'm=20not=20going=20to=20be=20the=20=
last=20legally=20
blind
=20student=20there.

=20Another=20drawback=20to=20just=20using=20my=20own=20equipment=20is=20tha=
t=20there=20is=20
learning
=20software=20and=20databases=20in=20the=20tutoring=20center=20and=20career=
=20center.=20=20
If=20I=20use
=20my
=20own=20equipment,=20those=20programs=20are=20not=20on=20it.
=20I'm=20sure=20if=20I=20request=20jaws=20in=20the=20career=20center,=20I=20=
will=20get=20the=20
same=20story
=20about=20licenses.=20=20groan.

=20Ashley
=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20Amy=20Sabo
=20Sent:=20Sunday,=20January=2022,=202012=2012:21=20AM
=20To:=20'National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list'
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20school=20is=20not=20accommodating

=20Dear=20Ashley,
=20I'm=20sorry=20that=20you=20are=20having=20difficulties=20with=20your=20s=
ituations=20
and
=20problems
=20at=20a=20community=20college.=20=20I=20too=20had=20some=20of=20these=20s=
ame=20problems=20
myself=20when
=20I
=20began=20my=20college=20experience=20way=20back=20in=202000=20where=20I=20=
began=20at=20a=20
community
=20college=20in=20Michigan.=20=20And,=20here's=20what=20I=20had=20to=20do=20=
in=20dealing=20
with=20all=20of
=20these=20problems=20relating=20to=20yours.

=20As=20to=20the=20mobility=20situation=20on=20your=20campus=20I=20didn't=20=
have=20any=20o=20
and=20m
=20training=20even=20though=20I=20had=20asked=20the=20mi=20commission=20for=
=20some=20I=20
didn't
=20receive
=20any=20at=20all.=20=20So,=20what=20I=20did=20was=20try=20to=20learn=20as=
=20much=20on=20my=20own=20
by=20asking
=20many
=20questions=20and,=20also=20asking=20other=20students=20for=20sighted=20as=
sistance=20
and,=20then
=20I
=20knew=20where=20to=20go.=20=20I=20also=20had=20my=20parents=20or=20a=20si=
ghted=20friend=20who=20
was=20in=20one
=20of=20my=20classes=20show=20me=20around=20the=20campus.=20=20So,=20those=
=20are=202=20ideas=20
on=20getting
=20around=20your=20community=20college=20independtally.=20=20As=20for=20you=
r=20it=20
class=20I=20would
=20get=20a=20laptop.=20=20I=20had=20a=20voicenote=20when=20I=20was=20at=20m=
y=20community=20
college=20which
=20was
=20helpful=20but,=20it=20didn't=20do=20everything=20that=20I=20needed=20for=
=20my=20
classes=20so,=20a
=20laptop=20is=20sooo=20much=20beneficial=20in=20working=20on=20the=20job=20=
and,=20also=20
for
=20college.
=20And,=20you=20can=20have=20your=20own=20copy=20of=20jfw=20on=20it=20and,=
=20you=20don't=20have=20
to=20rely
=20on
=20the=20dss=20office=20or=20the=20school's=20version=20or=20wait=20for=20t=
heir=20
licenses=20of=20it
=20for
=20the=20keys.=20=20You=20said=20that=20you=20don't=20want=20to=20lug=20a=20=
large=20laptop=20
around=20campus
=20well,=20I=20used=20a=20roller=20bag=20for=20it=20and,=20it=20worked=20ou=
t=20fine=20or=20put=20
it=20in=20a
=20laptop=20bag=20for=20a=20backpack=20or=20messenger=20bag=20which=20is=20=
available=20
for=20purchase
=20all=20major=20stores.=20=20Or,=20you=20can=20purchase=20a=20netbook=20wh=
ich=20is=20
smaller=20than=20a
=20laptop=20and,=20it=20works=20great=20with=20jfw.=20=20My=20sister=20has=
=20one=20as=20a=20
matter=20of=20fact
=20it's=20her=20second=20one=20to=20be=20certain=20of=20that!

=20As=20for=20the=20school's=20web=20site=20not=20being=20accessible=20with=
=20jfw=20have=20
you
=20advised
=20the=20dss=20office=20of=20this?=20If=20yes=20or=20no=20then=20send=20a=20=
friendly=20email=20
of=20your
=20concerns=20and=20frustrations=20to=20the=20webmaster=20of=20the=20school=
's=20web=20
site.

=20As=20for=20the=20cd=20for=20the=20textbook=20or=20other=20materials=20th=
at=20you=20are=20
using=20what
=20format=20is=20it=20in?=20as=20for=20all=20of=20the=20it=20books=20try=20=
to=20get=20them=20in=20a
=20accessible
=20format=20on=20your=20own=20or=20get=20the=20dss=20office=20to=20assist=20=
you?=20When=20I=20
began=20at=20my
=20community=20college=20this=20happened=20to=20me=20and,=20I=20had=20to=20=
scan=20my=20
books=20on=20my
=20own
=20or=20have=20a=20reader=20or=20a=20family=20member=20be=20my=20reader=20f=
or=20me.

=20Besides=20rfbd=20there's=20other=20resources=20like=20bookshare=20or=20n=
ls=20to=20
name=20a=20few.

=20So,=20there=20are=20many=20resources=20and=20ideas=20that=20I=20have=20g=
iven=20to=20you.=20=20
I=20hope
=20that
=20you=20can=20use=20them=20to=20your=20advantage.=20=20Take=20care=20and=20=
good=20luck!




=20Hugs,
=20amy

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org=20
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On
=20Behalf
=20Of=20Ashley=20Bramlett
=20Sent:=20Friday,=20January=2020,=202012=2012:14=20PM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20school=20is=20not=20accomodating

=20Hi=20all,

=20Just=20want=20to=20vent.=20=20My=20school=20doesn=92t=20seem=20very=20ac=
comodating=20and=20
they=92re
=20the
=20largest=20community=20college=20in=20the=20commonwealth.=20=20Yo=20They=
=20got=20over=20
five
=20campuses=20and=20you=20can=20read=20about=20at=20www.nvcc.edu.

=20I=92m=20just=20taking=20further=20classes=20to=20get=20a=20writing=20cer=
tificate=20and=20
figured
=20extra=20knowledge=20will=20enhance=20my=20resume=20as=20I=20look=20for=20=
work.=20=20No=20
one=92s=20hiring
=20so=20it=20will=20be=20a=20whwile;=20might=20as=20well=20learn=20more.

=20First,=20my=20disability=20service=20office,=20DSO,=20does=20not=20scan=
=20any=20
texts.=20=20I=20am
=20still=20waiting=20for=20electronic=20text;=20fortunately,=20a=20family=20=
member=20
can=20read
=20meanwhile=20til=20I=20find=20a=20reader=20at=20school.=20=20If=20the=20p=
ublisher=20won=92t=20
give=20us
=20the
=20e-book,=20they=20likely=20never=20will;=20I=20mean=20its=20been=20two=20=
weeks!

=20Second,=20I=20am=20taking=20that=20It=20class=20as=20I=20mentioned=20bef=
ore.=20=20The=20
instructor
=20wanted=20jaws=20installed=20in=20her=20office=20because=20she=20needs=20=
to=20show=20me=20
the
=20steps.
=20Hmm.=20=20Maybe=20I=20need=20a=20laptop.=20=20But=20I=20hate=20the=20ide=
a=20of=20lugging=20the=20
thing
=20around!
=20They=20tell=20us=20they=20don=92t=20have=20enough=20licenses;=20um=20how=
=20absurd.=20=20
They=20need
=20lots
=20of=20them.=20=20what=20if=20another=20blind=20student=20needs=20jaws=20i=
n=20a=20
classroom=20lab?

=20Third,=20they=20cannot=20braille=20tests;=20at=20least=20they=20will=20o=
utsource=20
to=20get=20it
=20brailled=20though;=20just=20seems=20like=20a=20large=20school=20would=20=
be=20able=20to=20
braille
=20tests!

=20Fourth,=20this=20new=20building=20which=20holds=20the=20student=20servic=
e=20stuff=20
and
=20counseling=20center=20is=20very=20open=20few=20halls,=20few=20landmarks.=
=20=20I=20bet=20
its=20not=20ADA
=20compliant.=20=20I=20don=92t=20know=20though.=20=20Its=20certainly=20conf=
using=20for=20a=20
blind
=20traveler.=20=20Sighted=20people=20get=20lost=20until=20they=92ve=20been=
=20there=20a=20
lot=20since=20its
=20not=20laid=20out=20well.

=20Not=20to=20mention=20the=20inaccessible=20website=20and=20CD=20for=20the=
=20IT=20class=20
too.
=20Publishers=20need=20to=20get=20with=20the=20program!

=20Ashley
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