[nabs-l] school is not accommodating
Humberto Avila
avila.bert.humberto2 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 23 22:21:08 UTC 2012
Hello Chris, where did you get the eloquence voices for NVDA? I ask this =
as
they eloquence synth does not come with NVDA by default and since it is
just a commercially available synthesizer, I would have to purchase it. =
But
is there a free version of it?=20
My JAWS license for my home computer has been killed by due to a =
computer
crash and later reformat. So I don't have a full JAWS license, and =
instead
of wasting about 45 seconds for each restart of my computer every 40
minutes, I would like a better speech sound for my NVDA backup.
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 2:00 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
It uses a different synthesizer, called eSpeak as default, but=20
you can get Eloquence versions for it. I personally don't like=20
eSpeak, so use either Eloquence or DecTalk for NVDA.
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The=20
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that=20
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and=20
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical=20
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:59:18 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
good idea; does nvda sound like jaws and where is the website?
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
Ashley:
Why not ask them to go to NVDA's Website, and download it on=20
every computer?
They don't need licenses, with NVDA.
Blessings, Joshua
On 1/22/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
Amy,
I am pretty sure I will get a laptop; I'll share it with my dad=20
though.
They
can get expensive, so its best if more than one person use it.
As for mobility, I did receive an orientation by a mobility=20
instructor.
Also, my parents helped me out. But its just that the new=20
student union
building with the bookstore, student caf?and more in it is laid=20
out
weird;
its not a particular shape; just a lot of open space. I'll do=20
the best I
can with it though. The counseling center is in a corner so it=20
shouldn't
be
too hard to find.
I'm looking for readers as well. So looks like I'll have to=20
make my own
accomodations. However, I still will plan to speak to whomever=20
purchased
jaws; someone in the office of the vice president. I find it=20
rediculous
they
don't have enough licenses; I'm not going to be the last legally=20
blind
student there.
Another drawback to just using my own equipment is that there is=20
learning
software and databases in the tutoring center and career center. =20
If I use
my
own equipment, those programs are not on it.
I'm sure if I request jaws in the career center, I will get the=20
same story
about licenses. groan.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Sabo
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:21 AM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
Dear Ashley,
I'm sorry that you are having difficulties with your situations=20
and
problems
at a community college. I too had some of these same problems=20
myself when
I
began my college experience way back in 2000 where I began at a=20
community
college in Michigan. And, here's what I had to do in dealing=20
with all of
these problems relating to yours.
As to the mobility situation on your campus I didn't have any o=20
and m
training even though I had asked the mi commission for some I=20
didn't
receive
any at all. So, what I did was try to learn as much on my own=20
by asking
many
questions and, also asking other students for sighted assistance=20
and, then
I
knew where to go. I also had my parents or a sighted friend who=20
was in one
of my classes show me around the campus. So, those are 2 ideas=20
on getting
around your community college independtally. As for your it=20
class I would
get a laptop. I had a voicenote when I was at my community=20
college which
was
helpful but, it didn't do everything that I needed for my=20
classes so, a
laptop is sooo much beneficial in working on the job and, also=20
for
college.
And, you can have your own copy of jfw on it and, you don't have=20
to rely
on
the dss office or the school's version or wait for their=20
licenses of it
for
the keys. You said that you don't want to lug a large laptop=20
around campus
well, I used a roller bag for it and, it worked out fine or put=20
it in a
laptop bag for a backpack or messenger bag which is available=20
for purchase
all major stores. Or, you can purchase a netbook which is=20
smaller than a
laptop and, it works great with jfw. My sister has one as a=20
matter of fact
it's her second one to be certain of that!
As for the school's web site not being accessible with jfw have=20
you
advised
the dss office of this? If yes or no then send a friendly email=20
of your
concerns and frustrations to the webmaster of the school's web=20
site.
As for the cd for the textbook or other materials that you are=20
using what
format is it in? as for all of the it books try to get them in a
accessible
format on your own or get the dss office to assist you? When I=20
began at my
community college this happened to me and, I had to scan my=20
books on my
own
or have a reader or a family member be my reader for me.
Besides rfbd there's other resources like bookshare or nls to=20
name a few.
So, there are many resources and ideas that I have given to you. =20
I hope
that
you can use them to your advantage. Take care and good luck!
Hugs,
amy
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org=20
[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf
Of Ashley Bramlett
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:14 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
Hi all,
Just want to vent. My school doesn=92t seem very accomodating and=20
they=92re
the
largest community college in the commonwealth. Yo They got over=20
five
campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.
I=92m just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and=20
figured
extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work. No=20
one=92s hiring
so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.
First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any=20
texts. I am
still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member=20
can read
meanwhile til I find a reader at school. If the publisher won=92t=20
give us
the
e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!
Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before. The=20
instructor
wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me=20
the
steps.
Hmm. Maybe I need a laptop. But I hate the idea of lugging the=20
thing
around!
They tell us they don=92t have enough licenses; um how absurd. =20
They need
lots
of them. what if another blind student needs jaws in a=20
classroom lab?
Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource=20
to get it
brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to=20
braille
tests!
Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff=20
and
counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks. I bet=20
its not ADA
compliant. I don=92t know though. Its certainly confusing for a=20
blind
traveler. Sighted people get lost until they=92ve been there a=20
lot since its
not laid out well.
Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class=20
too.
Publishers need to get with the program!
Ashley
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