[nabs-l] question on Ipods

Sun Jan 1 01:02:15 UTC 2012

It does have a screen you need to see. It's basically a larger version
of the nano 5th generation that Chris described, but it doesn't talk.
Buy a nano! If you end up hating it just blame it on me :)!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 1, 2012, at 1:17 AM, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> but does the classic have a screen you need to see? If it only has buttons that would be usable.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Ignasi Cambra
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:07 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>
> The iPod classic does not have VoiceIver. If you need an accessible
> music player get a nano. You will love the thing, really!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 1, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>> It sounds like your fifth generation is not touch screen and the sixth
>> generation is. That is why I'm hearing different stories from different
>> people. No one mentioned the classic. Is ipod classic touch screen? How does
>> it operate? Does it have voice over?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:23 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> Oh, so that must be the touch screen one.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
>> opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
>> nuisance."
>> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
>> 1968-1986
>>
>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
>> in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
>> assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
>> which help them be equal with their sighted peers.  For more
>> information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
>> us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Aubrie Lucas" <aubielynn at gmail.com
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:06:25 -0900
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> The Sixth Generation.  It was released in September of last year.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:03 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> It must be.  I thought the 5th generation was pretty new, but I
>> guess I was
>> wrong.  What is the latest Nano model?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>> real
>> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>> exists.  If a
>> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
>> can be
>> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
>> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
>> 1968-1986
>>
>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
>> in
>> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
>> assistive
>> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
>> them be
>> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the
>> Foundation
>> and to support our work, visit us online at
>> www.icanfoundation.info!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:00:13 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I checked online.  The Ipod nano must be a touch screen.  Chris,
>> yours with
>> the touch wheel and buttons must be older.
>> The description said
>> Getting where you want to go is simple on iPod nano.  The large
>> icons make
>> scrolling and tapping to get to your favorite music, workout,
>> radio
>> station, or clock face easy.  View icons one at a time, or
>> display four
>> icons on each screen.  And you can change the order of the icons
>> to find
>> your stuff fast.
>>
>>
>> Ashley-----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:59 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> Good idea.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>> real
>> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>> exists.  If a
>> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
>> can be
>> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
>> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
>> 1968-1986
>>
>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
>> in
>> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
>> assistive
>> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
>> them be
>> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the
>> Foundation
>> and to support our work, visit us online at
>> www.icanfoundation.info!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:41:54 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> Chris,
>> The way you describe your ipod nano sounds simple.  I don't want
>> a touch
>> screen.  So if the newer ipod nanos do that, I'll stick with the
>> shuffle.
>> You say yours is a fifth generation.  I'll see if that is still
>> sold.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:43 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> Hi Ashley,
>>
>> The Nano keypad is just like the Shuffle then, at least on mine.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>> real
>> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>> exists.  If a
>> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
>> can be
>> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
>> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
>> 1968-1986
>>
>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
>> in
>> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
>> assistive
>> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
>> them be
>> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the
>> Foundation
>> and to support our work, visit us online at
>> www.icanfoundation.info!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:29:58 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> Chris,
>> You must really love music; I'm not sure I need a 8 gb  size;
>> maybe four or
>> six gb would do for me.
>> Are the buttons on the nano on a keypad? Is it like a phone
>> keypad? On the
>> shuffle, the buttons are around the circular okay button.
>> Now that I know you do not have to interact with the screen much
>> and do
>> gestures, maybe I could learn the nano.
>> I like the idea of marking it with dots or tape.  I've also used
>> the clock
>> face reference to learn button functions.  Yes the  ipod shuffle
>> is old.
>> So next one will be a shuffle or a nano.
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:21 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> Hi Ashley,
>>
>> Here are some answers to your questions:
>>
>> * Memory Space: That Shuffle must be pretty old! The newer iPod's
>> come in a
>> lot bigger sizes; I have a 8 GB Nano.  There are 16 gig models
>> too.
>>
>> * VoiceOver: All iPods after the Classic have VoiceOver built in,
>> to the
>> best of my knowledge.  It might have started with the 1st
>> generation Nano,
>> though; I can't remember.
>>
>> * Nano and touch stcreens: I have a Nano, and it is a combination
>> of a
>> touch screen and buttons.  However, you can't really tell that
>> they are
>> buttons at first because they're not very raised, so it looks
>> like a touch
>> screen.  To fix this problem, I put Wiki sticks on each button to
>> raise
>> them, and had a sighted person help me learn which button did
>> what.  I then
>> used the clock-face technique to learn it.  On the Nano, the
>> button at: 12
>> o'clock is the "go forward" button (to go forward a track in an
>> album or go
>> to the next song in a playlist, genius mix, or when the iPod is
>> in shuffle
>> mode,) 3 o'clock is the play/pause button, 6 o'clock is the go
>> back button,
>> and 9 o'clock is the menu button (to go to the previous menu.)
>> The button
>> in the middle of the circle where all the buttons are is the "OK"
>> or
>> "select" button.  If you are hearing a song and you want to know
>> the title
>> and artist of the song that is playing, just hit the center
>> button and
>> VoiceOver will tell you.  You may have to do this twice.  And if
>> you shake
>> the device, it will shuffle the songs; this is the "shake to
>> shuffle"
>> feature.  The only time you will need to use a touchscreen-like
>> gesture is
>> when you are in a menu.  Just a little flick (1 finger) forward
>> will move
>> you to the next item in the menu; a flick back will move you to
>> the
>> previous item in the menu.  When you get to the item you want,
>> hit the
>> center button.
>>
>> If you have any more questions about the iPod Nano, please let me
>> know!
>> Hope this helps!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
>> real
>> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
>> exists.  If a
>> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
>> can be
>> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
>> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
>> 1968-1986
>>
>> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
>> in
>> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
>> assistive
>> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
>> them be
>> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the
>> Foundation
>> and to support our work, visit us online at
>> www.icanfoundation.info!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:57:32 -0500
>> Subject: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> What are your experiences with Ipods? Are all now built in with
>> that
>> talking speech voice over? I have a small ipod shuffle that was a
>> present
>> to me a few years ago.
>> What memory sizes do Ipod shuffles come in now? Mine is only 1
>> gig, which
>> I?셫 discovering is not big enough!
>> I?셫 not interested in a touch screen device because I think it
>> would be
>> too easy to press the wrong thing.  Are any ipods screen based
>> but not a
>> touch screen? I thought the ipod nano was a touch screen, but not
>> sure.
>>
>> Anyone used an ipod for books or movies? What is the navigation
>> ability
>> with them? By chapter?
>> I might get an ipod again  with a bigger memory capacity and
>> wondered my
>> options.  I like the shuffle because its small and simple to use;
>> few
>> buttons.  So I might stick with that.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Ashley
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