[nabs-l] question on Ipods
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sun Jan 1 15:34:35 UTC 2012
Hi Ashley,
Apparently, Apple released a new model of the iPod Nano, the 6th
generation, after I got my 5th generation. The 6th generation,
which is the newest one, has a touch screen, and the 5th
generation doesn't. The Classic doesn't have VoiceOver, to the
best of my knowledge.
Chris
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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Date sent: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:53:05 -0500
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Chris,
It sounds like your fifth generation is not touch screen and the
sixth
generation is. That is why I'm hearing different stories from
different
people. No one mentioned the classic. Is ipod classic touch
screen? How does
it operate? Does it have voice over?
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
Oh, so that must be the touch screen one.
Chris
Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive technology and scholarships to camps and conventions
which help them be equal with their sighted peers. For more
information about the Foundation and to support our work, visit
us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aubrie Lucas" <aubielynn at gmail.com
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Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:06:25 -0900
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
The Sixth Generation. It was released in September of last year.
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 6:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
It must be. I thought the 5th generation was pretty new, but I
guess I was
wrong. What is the latest Nano model?
Chris
Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in
Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive
technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
them be
equal with their sighted peers. For more information about the
Foundation
and to support our work, visit us online at
www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:00:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
Hi all,
I checked online. The Ipod nano must be a touch screen. Chris,
yours with
the touch wheel and buttons must be older.
The description said
Getting where you want to go is simple on iPod nano. The large
icons make
scrolling and tapping to get to your favorite music, workout,
radio
station, or clock face easy. View icons one at a time, or
display four
icons on each screen. And you can change the order of the icons
to find
your stuff fast.
Ashley-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
Good idea.
Chris
Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in
Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive
technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
them be
equal with their sighted peers. For more information about the
Foundation
and to support our work, visit us online at
www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:41:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
Chris,
The way you describe your ipod nano sounds simple. I don't want
a touch
screen. So if the newer ipod nanos do that, I'll stick with the
shuffle.
You say yours is a fifth generation. I'll see if that is still
sold.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
Hi Ashley,
The Nano keypad is just like the Shuffle then, at least on mine.
Chris
Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in
Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive
technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
them be
equal with their sighted peers. For more information about the
Foundation
and to support our work, visit us online at
www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:29:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
Chris,
You must really love music; I'm not sure I need a 8 gb size;
maybe four or
six gb would do for me.
Are the buttons on the nano on a keypad? Is it like a phone
keypad? On the
shuffle, the buttons are around the circular okay button.
Now that I know you do not have to interact with the screen much
and do
gestures, maybe I could learn the nano.
I like the idea of marking it with dots or tape. I've also used
the clock
face reference to learn button functions. Yes the ipod shuffle
is old.
So next one will be a shuffle or a nano.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Nusbaum
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
Hi Ashley,
Here are some answers to your questions:
* Memory Space: That Shuffle must be pretty old! The newer iPod's
come in a
lot bigger sizes; I have a 8 GB Nano. There are 16 gig models
too.
* VoiceOver: All iPods after the Classic have VoiceOver built in,
to the
best of my knowledge. It might have started with the 1st
generation Nano,
though; I can't remember.
* Nano and touch stcreens: I have a Nano, and it is a combination
of a
touch screen and buttons. However, you can't really tell that
they are
buttons at first because they're not very raised, so it looks
like a touch
screen. To fix this problem, I put Wiki sticks on each button to
raise
them, and had a sighted person help me learn which button did
what. I then
used the clock-face technique to learn it. On the Nano, the
button at: 12
o'clock is the "go forward" button (to go forward a track in an
album or go
to the next song in a playlist, genius mix, or when the iPod is
in shuffle
mode,) 3 o'clock is the play/pause button, 6 o'clock is the go
back button,
and 9 o'clock is the menu button (to go to the previous menu.)
The button
in the middle of the circle where all the buttons are is the "OK"
or
"select" button. If you are hearing a song and you want to know
the title
and artist of the song that is playing, just hit the center
button and
VoiceOver will tell you. You may have to do this twice. And if
you shake
the device, it will shuffle the songs; this is the "shake to
shuffle"
feature. The only time you will need to use a touchscreen-like
gesture is
when you are in a menu. Just a little flick (1 finger) forward
will move
you to the next item in the menu; a flick back will move you to
the
previous item in the menu. When you get to the item you want,
hit the
center button.
If you have any more questions about the iPod Nano, please let me
know!
Hope this helps!
Chris
Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in
Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive
technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
them be
equal with their sighted peers. For more information about the
Foundation
and to support our work, visit us online at
www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:57:32 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] question on Ipods
Hi all,
What are your experiences with Ipods? Are all now built in with
that
talking speech voice over? I have a small ipod shuffle that was a
present
to me a few years ago.
What memory sizes do Ipod shuffles come in now? Mine is only 1
gig, which
I?™m discovering is not big enough!
I?™m not interested in a touch screen device because I think it
would be
too easy to press the wrong thing. Are any ipods screen based
but not a
touch screen? I thought the ipod nano was a touch screen, but not
sure.
Anyone used an ipod for books or movies? What is the navigation
ability
with them? By chapter?
I might get an ipod again with a bigger memory capacity and
wondered my
options. I like the shuffle because its small and simple to use;
few
buttons. So I might stick with that.
Thanks.
Ashley
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