[nabs-l] Help with the stream

Tue Jan 3 13:38:38 UTC 2012

Humanware sells an attachment that will accept a cartrige. I've never 
seen it, but they can tell you about it if you call.

Antonio

On 1/3/2012 12:35 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
> You can use cartridges with the VR Stream.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" 
> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 9:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>
>
>> Joshua,
>> Actually you do not use cartriges with vr stream. you only use sd 
>> cards. it only takes little sd cards.
>> Its easy to slide in; it only goes one way; it took me a few tries to 
>> figure out the right way as well.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:50 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>
>> Thanks, Nicole, for the offer.
>> I'll do, when I get the cartredge, because that's my main problem,
>> (putting the darn thing in!)
>> Thanks again.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 1/2/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>> If you would like help using the VR Stream, you can email me off list.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>
>>>
>>>> Joshua,
>>>> I use the cd player too. The new victor reader strattus allows you 
>>>> to play
>>>>
>>>> daisy cds as well as  a USB slot for downloaded books and I think a sd
>>>> card. I have a vr stream, but like you I find it hard to figure out.
>>>>
>>>> I've also heard of other blind people having problems with the 
>>>> learning
>>>> ally downloads.  Sadly, they are not really much an ally to the 
>>>> blind now.
>>>>
>>>> They took blind out of their name and as I said, I feel their website,
>>>> including the download features, is not very user friendly. For 
>>>> instance
>>>> before in your book search results you could press H to see each book
>>>> title and information underneath it. Now they are tables and you 
>>>> only see
>>>> the book in a link. And they have pictures of each book cover. 
>>>> Notice jaws
>>>>
>>>> saying graphic a million times; that is because they added pictures 
>>>> to the
>>>>
>>>> book catalog. And with more links and clutter, you cannot find the 
>>>> text as
>>>>
>>>> easily.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 9:02 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>>
>>>> Wow!
>>>> I still use the CD player for my classes.
>>>> I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Antonio,
>>>>> What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out the
>>>>> download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they 
>>>>> changed
>>>>> it.
>>>>> I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind. If you 
>>>>> have a cd
>>>>> player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no 
>>>>> longer
>>>>> offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr classic,  
>>>>> more
>>>>> probably will download. I still have my old vr wave and thankfully it
>>>>> works!
>>>>> Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd 
>>>>> player is
>>>>> IMO
>>>>> easy to use and simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr strattus,
>>>>> which
>>>>> both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many places 
>>>>> like
>>>>> nls
>>>>> and learning ally.
>>>>>
>>>>> I encourage you to write learning ally. Many are disappointed. With
>>>>> changing
>>>>> their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on learning
>>>>> disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for politically
>>>>> correct
>>>>> purposes. Tell them to still include blind people and that blind 
>>>>> people
>>>>> have
>>>>> depended on them for over 30 years since they started. Don't let them
>>>>> forget
>>>>> us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges. Stating 
>>>>> something
>>>>>
>>>>> is
>>>>> not accessible won't help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate. More images and 
>>>>> complex
>>>>> organization. Like no longer can you see the book catalog from the 
>>>>> main
>>>>> page
>>>>> and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher 
>>>>> anymore
>>>>> without clicking on something extra. So I see like ten books with the
>>>>> same
>>>>> or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
>>>>> frustrated,
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Antonio Guimaraes
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear NABS members,
>>>>>
>>>>> It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally download
>>>>> features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the 
>>>>> services
>>>>> we've come to know in previous years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to use 
>>>>> their
>>>>> new and improved program for downloads. I have listened to their You
>>>>> Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to people 
>>>>> like
>>>>> you for some feedback.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are several reports that blind readers can not use Learning 
>>>>> Ally's
>>>>> download features.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a happy scholar. I am writing to find out if you too have 
>>>>> come
>>>>> up against issues with the download service.
>>>>>
>>>>> The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of access
>>>>> from an organization that has long been at the forefront in providing
>>>>> access to recorded texts for blind users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported 
>>>>> issues, and
>>>>> hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an oversight on
>>>>> Learning Ally's part.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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