[nabs-l] Help with the stream

Gloria G gloria.graves at gmail.com
Tue Jan 3 14:23:58 UTC 2012 

you can use SD cards with the victor stream. I have a 16 gig SD card and 
have put a lot of books on it from the Bard web cite. I love my stream and 
find it to be a veery easy piece of technology to use.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Antonio Guimaraes" <freethaught at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:38 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] Help with the stream


> Humanware sells an attachment that will accept a cartrige. I've never seen 
> it, but they can tell you about it if you call.
>
> Antonio
>
>
> On 1/3/2012 12:35 AM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:
>> You can use cartridges with the VR Stream.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" 
>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 9:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>
>>
>>> Joshua,
>>> Actually you do not use cartriges with vr stream. you only use sd cards. 
>>> it only takes little sd cards.
>>> Its easy to slide in; it only goes one way; it took me a few tries to 
>>> figure out the right way as well.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:50 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>
>>> Thanks, Nicole, for the offer.
>>> I'll do, when I get the cartredge, because that's my main problem,
>>> (putting the darn thing in!)
>>> Thanks again.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 1/2/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
>>>> If you would like help using the VR Stream, you can email me off list.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:31 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>> I use the cd player too. The new victor reader strattus allows you to 
>>>>> play
>>>>>
>>>>> daisy cds as well as  a USB slot for downloaded books and I think a sd
>>>>> card. I have a vr stream, but like you I find it hard to figure out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've also heard of other blind people having problems with the 
>>>>> learning
>>>>> ally downloads.  Sadly, they are not really much an ally to the blind 
>>>>> now.
>>>>>
>>>>> They took blind out of their name and as I said, I feel their website,
>>>>> including the download features, is not very user friendly. For 
>>>>> instance
>>>>> before in your book search results you could press H to see each book
>>>>> title and information underneath it. Now they are tables and you only 
>>>>> see
>>>>> the book in a link. And they have pictures of each book cover. Notice 
>>>>> jaws
>>>>>
>>>>> saying graphic a million times; that is because they added pictures to 
>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>> book catalog. And with more links and clutter, you cannot find the 
>>>>> text as
>>>>>
>>>>> easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 9:02 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow!
>>>>> I still use the CD player for my classes.
>>>>> I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Antonio,
>>>>>> What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out the
>>>>>> download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they 
>>>>>> changed
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind. If you have a 
>>>>>> cd
>>>>>> player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no 
>>>>>> longer
>>>>>> offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr classic, 
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> probably will download. I still have my old vr wave and thankfully it
>>>>>> works!
>>>>>> Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd player 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> IMO
>>>>>> easy to use and simple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr strattus,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many places 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> nls
>>>>>> and learning ally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I encourage you to write learning ally. Many are disappointed. With
>>>>>> changing
>>>>>> their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on learning
>>>>>> disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for politically
>>>>>> correct
>>>>>> purposes. Tell them to still include blind people and that blind 
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> depended on them for over 30 years since they started. Don't let them
>>>>>> forget
>>>>>> us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges. Stating 
>>>>>> something
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not accessible won't help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate. More images and 
>>>>>> complex
>>>>>> organization. Like no longer can you see the book catalog from the 
>>>>>> main
>>>>>> page
>>>>>> and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher 
>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>> without clicking on something extra. So I see like ten books with the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
>>>>>> frustrated,
>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Antonio Guimaraes
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
>>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear NABS members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally download
>>>>>> features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the 
>>>>>> services
>>>>>> we've come to know in previous years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to use 
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> new and improved program for downloads. I have listened to their You
>>>>>> Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to people 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> you for some feedback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are several reports that blind readers can not use Learning 
>>>>>> Ally's
>>>>>> download features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not a happy scholar. I am writing to find out if you too have 
>>>>>> come
>>>>>> up against issues with the download service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of access
>>>>>> from an organization that has long been at the forefront in providing
>>>>>> access to recorded texts for blind users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported issues, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an oversight on
>>>>>> Learning Ally's part.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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