[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

Wed Jan 4 00:23:08 UTC 2012

Yes, but, sometimes, you have to just take what you can get, especially once 
you get into college.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

>I personally don't want to have the synthesized voice on the Stream read a 
>book to me, especially a novel or textbook, and would go the RFBD route 
>whenever possible.
>
> Chris
>
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real 
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a 
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be 
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:10:14 -0800
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>
> You don't have to have a book.  It also plays MP3 files and reads TXT 
> files.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>
>
> I was shwon one, at convention, 2 years ago.
> I have one, but I'm not sure about working it.
> I don't have any books for it, now.
> I'll save your address, and E-mail you when I get a book.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 1/2/12, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joshua,
> E-mail me off list and I can help you figure out the Stream.  It's
> really quite simple.
> Patrick
>
> On 1/2/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
> Wow!
> I still use the CD player for my classes.
> I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Antonio,
> What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out the
> download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they changed
> it.
> I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind.  If you have a
> cd
> player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no longer
> offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr classic,  more
> probably will download.  I still have my old vr wave and thankfully it
> works!
> Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd player is
> IMO
> easy to use and simple.
>
> Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr strattus,
> which
> both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many places like
> nls
> and learning ally.
>
> I encourage you to write learning ally.  Many are disappointed.  With
> changing
> their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on learning
> disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for politically
> correct
> purposes.  Tell them to still include blind people and that blind people
> have
> depended on them for over 30 years since they started.  Don't let them
> forget
> us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges.  Stating
> something
> is
> not accessible won't help.
>
> Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate.  More images and complex
> organization.  Like no longer can you see the book catalog from the main
> page
> and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher anymore
> without clicking on something extra.  So I see like ten books with the
> same
> or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
> frustrated,
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Guimaraes
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>
> Dear NABS members,
>
> It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally download
> features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the services
> we've come to know in previous years.
>
> Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to use
> their
> new and improved program for downloads.  I have listened to their You
> Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to people like
> you for some feedback.
>
> There are several reports that blind readers can not use Learning
> Ally's
> download features.
>
> I am not a happy scholar.  I am writing to find out if you too have come
> up against issues with the download service.
>
> The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of access
> from an organization that has long been at the forefront in providing
> access to recorded texts for blind users.
>
> Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported issues, and
> hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an oversight on
> Learning Ally's part.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Antonio Guimaraes
>
>
>
>
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