[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

[Joshua Lester]

That RFBD route is what I'm dealing with, now.
It's now Learning Ally, but they need to go back to their old name.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/3/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
> Yes, but, sometimes, you have to just take what you can get, especially once
> you get into college.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>
>
>>I personally don't want to have the synthesized voice on the Stream read a
>>book to me, especially a novel or textbook, and would go the RFBD route
>>whenever possible.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real
>> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a
>> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
>> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
>> -- Kenneth Jernigan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:10:14 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>
>> You don't have to have a book.  It also plays MP3 files and reads TXT
>> files.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>
>>
>> I was shwon one, at convention, 2 years ago.
>> I have one, but I'm not sure about working it.
>> I don't have any books for it, now.
>> I'll save your address, and E-mail you when I get a book.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 1/2/12, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Joshua,
>> E-mail me off list and I can help you figure out the Stream.  It's
>> really quite simple.
>> Patrick
>>
>> On 1/2/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>> Wow!
>> I still use the CD player for my classes.
>> I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Antonio,
>> What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out the
>> download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they changed
>> it.
>> I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind.  If you have a
>> cd
>> player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no longer
>> offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr classic,  more
>> probably will download.  I still have my old vr wave and thankfully it
>> works!
>> Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd player is
>> IMO
>> easy to use and simple.
>>
>> Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr strattus,
>> which
>> both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many places like
>> nls
>> and learning ally.
>>
>> I encourage you to write learning ally.  Many are disappointed.  With
>> changing
>> their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on learning
>> disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for politically
>> correct
>> purposes.  Tell them to still include blind people and that blind people
>> have
>> depended on them for over 30 years since they started.  Don't let them
>> forget
>> us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges.  Stating
>> something
>> is
>> not accessible won't help.
>>
>> Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate.  More images and complex
>> organization.  Like no longer can you see the book catalog from the main
>> page
>> and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher anymore
>> without clicking on something extra.  So I see like ten books with the
>> same
>> or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
>> frustrated,
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antonio Guimaraes
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
>>
>> Dear NABS members,
>>
>> It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally download
>> features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the services
>> we've come to know in previous years.
>>
>> Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to use
>> their
>> new and improved program for downloads.  I have listened to their You
>> Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to people like
>> you for some feedback.
>>
>> There are several reports that blind readers can not use Learning
>> Ally's
>> download features.
>>
>> I am not a happy scholar.  I am writing to find out if you too have come
>> up against issues with the download service.
>>
>> The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of access
>> from an organization that has long been at the forefront in providing
>> access to recorded texts for blind users.
>>
>> Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported issues, and
>> hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an oversight on
>> Learning Ally's part.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>
>>
>>
>>
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