[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

Wed Jan 4 01:36:38 UTC 2012

Yes, I understand.

Chris

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:23:08 -0800
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

Yes, but, sometimes, you have to just take what you can get, 
especially once
you get into college.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

I personally don't want to have the synthesized voice on the 
Stream read a
book to me, especially a novel or textbook, and would go the RFBD 
route
whenever possible.

 Chris

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real
 problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a
 blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness 
can be
 reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
 -- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:10:14 -0800
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

 You don't have to have a book.  It also plays MP3 files and 
reads TXT
 files.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

 I was shwon one, at convention, 2 years ago.
 I have one, but I'm not sure about working it.
 I don't have any books for it, now.
 I'll save your address, and E-mail you when I get a book.
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 1/2/12, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
 Joshua,
 E-mail me off list and I can help you figure out the Stream.  
It's
 really quite simple.
 Patrick

 On 1/2/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
 Wow!
 I still use the CD player for my classes.
 I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
 Antonio,
 What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out 
the
 download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they 
changed
 it.
 I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind.  If you 
have a
 cd
 player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no 
longer
 offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr 
classic,  more
 probably will download.  I still have my old vr wave and 
thankfully it
 works!
 Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd 
player is
 IMO
 easy to use and simple.

 Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr 
strattus,
 which
 both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many 
places like
 nls
 and learning ally.

 I encourage you to write learning ally.  Many are disappointed.  
With
 changing
 their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on 
learning
 disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for 
politically
 correct
 purposes.  Tell them to still include blind people and that 
blind people
 have
 depended on them for over 30 years since they started.  Don't 
let them
 forget
 us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges.  Stating
 something
 is
 not accessible won't help.

 Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate.  More images and 
complex
 organization.  Like no longer can you see the book catalog from 
the main
 page
 and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher 
anymore
 without clicking on something extra.  So I see like ten books 
with the
 same
 or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
 frustrated,
 Ashley

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Antonio Guimaraes
 Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
 To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

 Dear NABS members,

 It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally 
download
 features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the 
services
 we've come to know in previous years.

 Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to 
use
 their
 new and improved program for downloads.  I have listened to 
their You
 Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to 
people like
 you for some feedback.

 There are several reports that blind readers can not use 
Learning
 Ally's
 download features.

 I am not a happy scholar.  I am writing to find out if you too 
have come
 up against issues with the download service.

 The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of 
access
 from an organization that has long been at the forefront in 
providing
 access to recorded texts for blind users.

 Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported 
issues, and
 hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an 
oversight on
 Learning Ally's part.

 Sincerely,

 Antonio Guimaraes

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