[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 01:36:37 UTC 2012
Thanks!
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Date sent: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:22:13 -0800
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
The VR Stream should have come with a short cable that has a USB
port on one
end. I have never used it with a cartridge, but it should work.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
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Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Really? How?
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:35:08 -0800
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
You can use cartridges with the VR Stream.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Joshua,
Actually you do not use cartriges with vr stream. you only use
sd cards.
it only takes little sd cards.
Its easy to slide in; it only goes one way; it took me a few
tries to
figure out the right way as well.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:50 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Thanks, Nicole, for the offer.
I'll do, when I get the cartredge, because that's my main
problem,
(putting the darn thing in!)
Thanks again.
Blessings, Joshua
On 1/2/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
<ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
If you would like help using the VR Stream, you can email me off
list.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Joshua,
I use the cd player too. The new victor reader strattus allows
you to
play
daisy cds as well as a USB slot for downloaded books and I
think a sd
card. I have a vr stream, but like you I find it hard to figure
out.
I've also heard of other blind people having problems with the
learning
ally downloads. Sadly, they are not really much an ally to the
blind
now.
They took blind out of their name and as I said, I feel their
website,
including the download features, is not very user friendly. For
instance
before in your book search results you could press H to see each
book
title and information underneath it. Now they are tables and
you only
see
the book in a link. And they have pictures of each book cover.
Notice
jaws
saying graphic a million times; that is because they added
pictures to
the
book catalog. And with more links and clutter, you cannot find
the text
as
easily.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 9:02 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Wow!
I still use the CD player for my classes.
I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
Blessings, Joshua
On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
Antonio,
What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure out
the
download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they
changed
it.
I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind. If you
have a
cd
player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware no
longer
offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr
classic, more
probably will download. I still have my old vr wave and
thankfully it
works!
Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd
player is
IMO
easy to use and simple.
Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr
strattus,
which
both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many
places like
nls
and learning ally.
I encourage you to write learning ally. Many are disappointed.
With
changing
their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on
learning
disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for
politically
correct
purposes. Tell them to still include blind people and that
blind people
have
depended on them for over 30 years since they started. Don't
let them
forget
us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges. Stating
something
is
not accessible won't help.
Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate. More images and
complex
organization. Like no longer can you see the book catalog from
the main
page
and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher
anymore
without clicking on something extra. So I see like ten books
with the
same
or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
frustrated,
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Guimaraes
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally
Dear NABS members,
It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally
download
features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the
services
we've come to know in previous years.
Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to
use
their
new and improved program for downloads. I have listened to
their You
Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to
people like
you for some feedback.
There are several reports that blind readers can not use
Learning
Ally's
download features.
I am not a happy scholar. I am writing to find out if you too
have come
up against issues with the download service.
The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of
access
from an organization that has long been at the forefront in
providing
access to recorded texts for blind users.
Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported
issues, and
hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an
oversight on
Learning Ally's part.
Sincerely,
Antonio Guimaraes
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