[nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

Wed Jan 4 01:36:35 UTC 2012

Oh, ok.

Chris

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:57:10 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

It's not the stream.
I thought it was.
It's the new NLS digital player.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/3/12, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
 You should have some sample books which came with your Stream, 
if
 it's like mine.  They are in the Talking Books bookshelf.  Hit
 the bookshelf key (which is like the number 1 on a phone keypad,
 which is what the Stream's keypad is designed like) until it 
says
 "talking books." Then to move between the books, hit the 4
 (previous book) and 6 (next book) keys.  Also, I would recommend
 turning the key describer on by pressing and holding the 0 key,
 then hitting each key on the keypad so you know what it does.
 Hope this helps,

 Chris

 "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
 real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
 exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and
 opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
 nuisance."
 -- Kenneth Jernigan

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 20:45:02 -0600
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

 I was shwon one, at convention, 2 years ago.
 I have one, but I'm not sure about working it.
 I don't have any books for it, now.
 I'll save your address, and E-mail you when I get a book.
 Blessings, Joshua

 On 1/2/12, Patrick Molloy <ptrck.molloy at gmail.com> wrote:
  Joshua,
  E-mail me off list and I can help you figure out the Stream.
 It's
  really quite simple.
  Patrick

  On 1/2/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> 
wrote:
  Wow!
  I still use the CD player for my classes.
  I hate the Victor Stream, because I can't figure it out!
  Blessings, Joshua

  On 1/2/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
  Antonio,
  What are the problems? Do you use jaws? I've tried to figure 
out
 the
  download; it took me a while to learn the old way, and now they
 changed
  it.
  I'm not the most patient with technology, keep in mind.  If you
 have a cd
  player, you still can order daisy cds, but now that humanware 
no
 longer
  offers the little daisy players; vr wave, vr vibe and vr
 classic,  more
  probably will download.  I still have my old vr wave and
 thankfully it
  works!
  Since as you said downloading is not friendly and a Daisy cd
 player is
  IMO
  easy to use and simple.

  Humanware recently released a new victor reader player, vr
 strattus,
  which
  both plays those daisy cds and downloadable books from many
 places like
  nls
  and learning ally.

  I encourage you to write learning ally.  Many are disappointed.
 With
  changing
  their name, it seems they changed their mission to focus on
 learning
  disabilities without identifying them as disabled, for
 politically
  correct
  purposes.  Tell them to still include blind people and that
 blind people
  have
  depended on them for over 30 years since they started.  Don't
 let them
  forget
  us and be specific as to your accessibility challenges.  
Stating
 something
  is
  not accessible won't help.

  Also IMo, their site is more hard to navigate.  More images and
 complex
  organization.  Like no longer can you see the book catalog from
 the main
  page
  and when you search books you cannot read the edition/publisher
 anymore
  without clicking on something extra.  So I see like ten books
 with the
  same
  or similar name and it takes longer to figure out what to pick.
  frustrated,
  Ashley

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Antonio Guimaraes
  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 8:35 PM
  To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Subject: [nabs-l] Seems we lost an ally

  Dear NABS members,

  It is more than obvious to me that the new Learning Ally
 download
  features fall short of offering blind screen reader users the
 services
  we've come to know in previous years.

  Today I experienced at least an hour of frustrations trying to
 use their
  new and improved program for downloads.  I have listened to
 their You
  Tube video explaining the process, and then reached out to
 people like
  you for some feedback.

  There are several reports that blind readers can not use
 Learning Ally's
  download features.

  I am not a happy scholar.  I am writing to find out if you too
 have come
  up against issues with the download service.

  The NABS division and its membership should not accept lack of
 access
  from an organization that has long been at the forefront in
 providing
  access to recorded texts for blind users.

  Your experience will only help confirm some of the reported
 issues, and
  hopefully result in rectifying what must certainly be an
 oversight on
  Learning Ally's part.

  Sincerely,

  Antonio Guimaraes

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