[nabs-l] school is not accommodating

Fri Jan 20 22:29:48 UTC 2012

IMO  they should braille the names of employees including professors. But 
that is the least of my problems.
The school does not scan books; they do not have a bookshare membership. 
They do not belong to access text, a database for schools to share books.

Gee.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:23 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating

The offices shouldn't be a problem, and I agree there.
I just wish they'd put the room numbers, on the classrooms, in Braille.
The names of the employees, on their office doors, at my college
aren't Brailled, either, and that's also a problem.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/20/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi,
> Many professors use the same classroom, of course. But I was refering to 
> the
> office itself. Most professors get an office assigned to them; some share
> with one other instructor; only adjunct instructors do not have their own
> office. Full time faculty do. So putting the professor's name would not be
> that hard.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>
> Our college is small, so different instructors may use the same room,
> so putting the professor's name on the door, isn't an option.
> Instead of "Classroom," or "Office," it should have the room number, in
> Braille.
> The number is there, in print, so why not in Braille?
> Instead of "Classroom," it should say this.
> "B104," "C105," etc.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 1/20/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Humberton,
>> Rehab is a joke; remember I'm a continuing ed student; so my rehab
>> counselor
>> is  concerned about getting me a job with a bachelors degree; she won't 
>> go
>> to meetings with the school; not sure that is a good idea. I mean rehab
>> doesn't follow their own regulations of informed choice; that is why they
>> fight with consumers about services.
>>
>> Now, I do want to bring in an advocate; my state president of nfb is busy
>> and travels a lot. So I might try a local advocate first. I think I'll 
>> ask
>> my local independent living center to help. The centers for independent
>> living deal with all people with disabilities. Also I might contact my
>> state
>> reps in richmond.
>> Chap peterson has been to nfb meetings here so he might be willing to 
>> help
>> even though he represents the next district over. Yes I will definitely
>> contact my state officials.
>>
>> As for braille signs. Um oh my, you got me started. While we do have
>> braille
>> numbers, other important info is not in braille. The professor's nname is
>> not brailled! I remember waiting over ten minutes for my professor who 
>> ran
>> late due to parking issues. Someone finally came along and read me the
>> phone
>> number on the door! Then I called her. Then she showed up three minutes
>> later and appoligized for being late. Well, I read her name since I have
>> vision and confirmed I was indeed in the right place! But it wasn't easy.
>> They could have at least put contrasting letters there for low vision
>> students!
>> Same with other signs. Uh, gray letters on dark background isn't good for
>> low vision people.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Humberto Avila
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 3:06 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>>
>> Hello Ashley and all:
>>
>> This is so awful. I think these experiences are and can always occur
>> anywhere in this nation with blind students going to college. I'm not 
>> sure
>> if this could be possible but whenever someone has those sad and bad
>> inaccessible experiences in college, they should:
>> 1.  talk to the DSS director or dean of students,  and if not working,
>> 2.  they should bring in the VR counselor with the DSS people at the
>> college
>> and discuss these issues, and if that doesn't work,
>> 3.  bring in an advocate at the state or local level government who can
>> explain the ADA and tell them how they are not providing the information
>> and
>> services to a blind student(s) that should be provided by law, and if 
>> that
>> does not work,
>> 4.  bring in an advocate from the National Federation of the Blind who 
>> can
>> really chew their butt! Like maybe, the state or chapter president and/or
>> maybe even more powerful, a national advocate. And if applicable, if the
>> school is still not doing the job, he can sue the school on behalf of the
>> NFB.
>>
>> Just my idea on this. But, in the end, we must stop colleges and
>> universities from not providing the services like accessible textbooks 
>> and
>> web sites and even well brailled classroom doors. This is completely 
>> nuts.
>> If we want change, we must take action now.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:53 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>>
>> That's sad!
>> My community college is awful at accomidating me, as well.
>> The Braille signs only say, "Classroom," and "Office," but it won't
>> say who the instructor is.
>> The offices don't even have the employee's names on the door, either.
>> It may, in Print, but not in Braille!
>> The classrooms, I can understand, because different instructors may
>> use the same room.
>> They should, however, put the room number on the door, instead of
>> "Classroom."
>> I've asked my DSO about it, but they won't do anything.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 1/20/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just want to vent. My school doesn't seem very accomodating and they're
>> the
>>> largest community college in the commonwealth. Yo They got over five
>>> campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.
>>>
>>> I'm just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and figured
>>> extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work. No one's
>>> hiring
>>> so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.
>>>
>>> First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any texts. I am
>>> still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member can read
>>> meanwhile til I find a reader at school. If the publisher won't give us
>> the
>>> e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!
>>>
>>> Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before. The instructor
>>> wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me the
>> steps.
>>> Hmm. Maybe I need a laptop. But I hate the idea of lugging the thing
>> around!
>>> They tell us they don't have enough licenses; um how absurd. They need
>> lots
>>> of them. what if another blind student needs jaws in a classroom lab?
>>>
>>> Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource to get it
>>> brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to braille
>>> tests!
>>>
>>> Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff and
>>> counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks. I bet its not
>>> ADA
>>> compliant. I don't know though. Its certainly confusing for a blind
>>> traveler. Sighted people get lost until they've been there a lot since
>>> its
>>> not laid out well.
>>>
>>> Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class too.
>>> Publishers need to get with the program!
>>>
>>> Ashley
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