[nabs-l] school is not accomodating

Fri Jan 20 23:35:30 UTC 2012

Hi Ashley,
I understand your situation at school is frustrating, but I'm not sure
that the school is actually in violation of any ADA mandates. Schools
aren't necessarily required to have a DSO at all, much less purchase a
scanner and Braille embosser. And while your building's layout may be
very annoying to try and navigate, it's not inaccessible to you as a
blind person. I'm not sure the ADA says anything about making
buildings accessible to the blind except perhaps to put Braille
signage on elevators. I don't know if Braille is required on doors.
I think your first priority should probably be finding a more reliable
way to get access to your books and exams. As for the JAWS issue, can
you install your copy of JAWS as a demo on your school computer
instead of asking them to buy another license? Or you can get a
netbook, which is a very lightweight laptop, for $400 or less.
You might see if the DSO will help you find a reader to read your
texts or if there is a scanner anywhere on campus, like in the library
or student services building, if DSO doesn't have one. If not, you can
advertise for readers in your classes, which I know you already have
experience with.
As for getting around the building, if you can walk through it a few
times with a reader, friend, or O&M and just learn to get to a few
locations within the building you will probably have an easier time.
You don't need to learn the whole building; just the location of the
places you need to go frequently.
I agree that the inaccessible website and CD's are a problem, but it
sounds like that's the fault of the publisher, not the fault of the
school, right?
Arielle

On 1/20/12, jeff crouch <jeffanel at gmail.com> wrote:
> yes, i am in 8th grade. I am very formiller with the ada and the idea.
> I like studying stuff like this.
>
> On 1/20/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Jeff,
>> You have more rights if you are in middle or high school, which I think
>> you
>> are! Under the Individuals with disabilities education Act, idea, you have
>> a
>> right to a free and appropriate education.
>> And your parents should advocate for braille signs and whatever
>> accomodations are needed.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jeff crouch
>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:31 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>>
>> yeah, oh, this is my first time on this bord, and i love it. Wow i am
>> more active on hear then i am on the nfbmi list. lol, i can't wait to
>> get to know you wonderful people, hey if you have skype feel free to
>> add me, my screen name is
>> magic2127
>>
>> have a good day
>> with love
>> jeff crouch
>>
>> On 1/20/12, Jonathan Franks <franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I agree, you should keep talking to theschool. Also, if you get more
>>> people
>>> to talk to the school on the issue, the school will be more likely to the
>>> problem. My suggestion is to go out and talk to your friends and peers
>>> and
>>> let them know about the issue, advocating is a good way to solve a
>>> problem
>>> or come up with solutions. Good luck.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:25 PM, "Gloria G" <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I am first sorry for the trouble you are having to deal with. I had a
>>>> friend in Nabraska who had the same issue with rooms throughout the
>>>> school
>>>> not being labeled and she talked to someone in her school and things got
>>>> worked on
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett"
>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:14 PM
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just want to vent. My school doesn’t seem very accomodating and they’re
>>>>> the largest community college in the commonwealth. Yo They got over
>>>>> five
>>>>> campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and
>>>>> figured
>>>>> extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work. No one’s
>>>>> hiring so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.
>>>>>
>>>>> First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any texts. I am
>>>>> still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member can
>>>>> read
>>>>> meanwhile til I find a reader at school. If the publisher won’t give us
>>>>> the e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before. The instructor
>>>>> wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me the
>>>>> steps. Hmm. Maybe I need a laptop. But I hate the idea of lugging the
>>>>> thing around!
>>>>> They tell us they don’t have enough licenses; um how absurd. They need
>>>>> lots of them. what if another blind student needs jaws in a classroom
>>>>> lab?
>>>>>
>>>>> Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource to get
>>>>> it
>>>>> brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to
>>>>> braille
>>>>> tests!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff and
>>>>> counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks. I bet its not
>>>>> ADA compliant. I don’t know though. Its certainly confusing for a blind
>>>>> traveler. Sighted people get lost until they’ve been there a lot since
>>>>> its not laid out well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class too.
>>>>> Publishers need to get with the program!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ashley
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