[nabs-l] school is not accommodating

Mon Jan 23 13:07:06 UTC 2012

There'll be no fight, because they've actually been quite
accomidating, technologywise.
I'm still going to deal with them, on the Braille signage, though.
Blessings, Joshua

On 1/23/12, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Joushua,
> Just a thought, instead of getting into a fight with your school about
> putting accessible screen readers on all school computers have you thought
> about using system access to go? This way it won't cause issues with your
> school assuming things will go wrong because you have a accessible software
> on all of the computers. Just a thought
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>
>
> After I experiment with NVDA, I'll have my college put it on all of
> the computers.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 1/22/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> yeah dell is better than accer.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:04 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>>
>> I'm not using it yet, and haven't downloaded it.
>> I will, when I get my new Dell, (and trade this piece of trash,) (Acer,)
>> in!
>> I'll E-mail you off list, with the Website.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 1/22/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> good idea; does nvda sound like jaws and where is the website?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 5:53 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>>>
>>> Ashley:
>>> Why not ask them to go to NVDA's Website, and download it on every
>>> computer?
>>> They don't need licenses, with NVDA.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 1/22/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> Amy,
>>>> I am pretty sure I will get a laptop; I'll share it with my dad though.
>>>> They
>>>> can get expensive, so its best if more than one person use it.
>>>> As for mobility, I did receive an orientation by a mobility instructor.
>>>> Also, my parents helped me out. But its just that the new student union
>>>> building with the bookstore, student café and more in it is laid out
>>>> weird;
>>>> its not a  particular shape; just a lot of open space. I'll do the best
>>>> I
>>>> can with it though. The counseling center is in a corner so it shouldn't
>>>> be
>>>> too hard to find.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for readers as well. So looks like I'll have to make my own
>>>> accomodations. However, I still will plan to speak to whomever purchased
>>>> jaws; someone in the office of the vice president. I find it rediculous
>>>> they
>>>> don't have enough licenses; I'm not going to be the last legally blind
>>>> student there.
>>>>
>>>> Another drawback to just using my own equipment is that there is
>>>> learning
>>>> software and databases in the tutoring center and career center. If I
>>>> use
>>>> my
>>>> own equipment, those programs are not on it.
>>>> I'm sure if I request jaws in the career center, I will get the same
>>>> story
>>>> about licenses. groan.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Amy Sabo
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:21 AM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] school is not accommodating
>>>>
>>>> Dear Ashley,
>>>> I'm sorry that you are having difficulties with your situations and
>>>> problems
>>>> at a community college. I too had some of these same problems myself
>>>> when
>>>> I
>>>> began my college experience way back in 2000 where I began at a
>>>> community
>>>> college in Michigan. And, here's what I had to do in dealing with all of
>>>> these problems relating to yours.
>>>>
>>>> As to the mobility situation on your campus I didn't have any o and m
>>>> training even though I had asked the mi commission for some I didn't
>>>> receive
>>>> any at all. So, what I did was try to learn as much on my own by asking
>>>> many
>>>> questions and, also asking other students for sighted assistance and,
>>>> then
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>> knew where to go. I also had my parents or a sighted friend who was in
>>>> one
>>>> of my classes show me around the campus. So, those are 2 ideas on
>>>> getting
>>>> around your community college independtally. As for your it class I
>>>> would
>>>> get a laptop. I had a voicenote when I was at my community college which
>>>> was
>>>> helpful but, it didn't do everything that I needed for my classes so, a
>>>> laptop is sooo much beneficial in working on the job and, also for
>>>> college.
>>>> And, you can have your own copy of jfw on it and, you don't have to rely
>>>> on
>>>> the dss office or the school's version or wait for their licenses of it
>>>> for
>>>> the keys. You said that you don't want to lug a large laptop around
>>>> campus
>>>> well, I used a roller bag for it and, it worked out fine or put it in a
>>>> laptop bag for a backpack or messenger bag which is available for
>>>> purchase
>>>> all major stores. Or, you can purchase a netbook which is smaller than a
>>>> laptop and, it works great with jfw. My sister has one as a matter of
>>>> fact
>>>> it's her second one to be certain of that!
>>>>
>>>> As for the school's web site not being accessible with jfw have you
>>>> advised
>>>> the dss office of this? If yes or no then send a friendly email of your
>>>> concerns and frustrations to the webmaster of the school's web site.
>>>>
>>>> As for the cd for the textbook or other materials that you are using
>>>> what
>>>> format is it in? as for all of the it books try to get them in a
>>>> accessible
>>>> format on your own or get the dss office to assist you? When I began at
>>>> my
>>>> community college this happened to me and, I had to scan my books on my
>>>> own
>>>> or have a reader or a family member be my reader for me.
>>>>
>>>> Besides rfbd there's other resources like bookshare or nls to name a
>>>> few.
>>>>
>>>> So, there are many resources and ideas that I have given to you. I hope
>>>> that
>>>> you can use them to your advantage. Take care and good luck!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hugs,
>>>> amy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Ashley Bramlett
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:14 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] school is not accomodating
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Just want to vent. My school doesn’t seem very accomodating and they’re
>>>> the
>>>> largest community college in the commonwealth. Yo They got over five
>>>> campuses and you can read about at www.nvcc.edu.
>>>>
>>>> I’m just taking further classes to get a writing certificate and figured
>>>> extra knowledge will enhance my resume as I look for work. No one’s
>>>> hiring
>>>> so it will be a whwile; might as well learn more.
>>>>
>>>> First, my disability service office, DSO, does not scan any texts. I am
>>>> still waiting for electronic text; fortunately, a family member can read
>>>> meanwhile til I find a reader at school. If the publisher won’t give us
>>>> the
>>>> e-book, they likely never will; I mean its been two weeks!
>>>>
>>>> Second, I am taking that It class as I mentioned before. The instructor
>>>> wanted jaws installed in her office because she needs to show me the
>>>> steps.
>>>> Hmm. Maybe I need a laptop. But I hate the idea of lugging the thing
>>>> around!
>>>> They tell us they don’t have enough licenses; um how absurd. They need
>>>> lots
>>>> of them. what if another blind student needs jaws in a classroom lab?
>>>>
>>>> Third, they cannot braille tests; at least they will outsource to get it
>>>> brailled though; just seems like a large school would be able to braille
>>>> tests!
>>>>
>>>> Fourth, this new building which holds the student service stuff and
>>>> counseling center is very open few halls, few landmarks. I bet its not
>>>> ADA
>>>> compliant. I don’t know though. Its certainly confusing for a blind
>>>> traveler. Sighted people get lost until they’ve been there a lot since
>>>> its
>>>> not laid out well.
>>>>
>>>> Not to mention the inaccessible website and CD for the IT class too.
>>>> Publishers need to get with the program!
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
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