[nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Mon Jan 23 22:41:19 UTC 2012
Yes; I use 2003 still at school (the school system hasn't
"approved" Windows 7 and Office 2010 yet, at least for students)
and I'm starting to find I like XP a little more, although I do
have Windows 7 at home and can access things pretty well with it.
The only thing that confused me was Outlook 2010.
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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Date sent: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:25:22 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
David,
I really agree! 2003 with its menus was more accessible. 2007
wasn't too bad
from what I heard. I did not try it though. I have 2010 and
feel its less
accessible. As someone already said, access is not accessible
and in 2007 it
was. Microsoft just had to change things; go figure.
Does anyone have a point of contact for them in the accessibility
department
or whomever handels access issues there.
Ashley
-----Original Message-----
From: David Dodge
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
Microsoft programs appear to me to be getting less and less
accessible as
time goes on.
If you are having accessibility issues with these products I
recommend
contacting Microsoft from their website. It is unlikely that
they will take
the feedback into consideration, but still.
2003 and 2007 or certainly more accessible than 2010.
David
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Doctoral Degree Granting Institutions Rep.
State University of New York Student Assembly
English Major
University at Buffalo
306 Clemens Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
daviddod at buffalo.edu
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <
ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
As far as my experience, there is no advantage to using 2007 or
2010,
especially if you find 2003. Files created using 2007 and 2010
can still
be
read and edited using 2003. I will leave it up to you, but my
recommendation is to use Office 2003. There are ways to have
both, but
they
are not easy or convenient.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" <
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
its my computer. Gee would be nice to have both versions
-----Original Message----- From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
No, you cannot. Is this your computer? If so, I would strongly
recommend
just uninstalling the current version of Office and installing
Office
2003.
If it is not your computer, then maybe you could talk to someone
who has
the
authority to do it and explain that it would make things a
million times
easier.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" <
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:18 PM
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Nicole,
I think I have an old cd with office 2003 around. Do you know
if I can
have
them concurrently on the computer?
It just would be nice to have both options; so if I cannot
figure out
where
something is in the ribbons, I can go back to the nice, simple
menus of
2003.
-----Original Message----- From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
Yes. The excerpt is from the "What's New in JAWS 12.0" section.
I do not
have Office 2007 or 2010, so I unfortunately cannot tell you how
well it
works, but it is probably better than nothing.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arielle Silverman" <
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:00 PM
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Does JAWS 12 have this?
Arielle
On 1/22/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
<ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
Do you know how to use the quick settings in JAWS? Copied from
the JAWS
13
help:
Virtual Ribbon Menu
The Ribbon is a new style of menu available in many new
applications
being
released today. Ribbons first appeared in Office 2007 programs,
but are
now
becoming more common in other applications tailored for the
Windows 7
operating system. Ribbons create an accessibility challenge due
to
inconsistent navigation between various groups and items. For
example,
when
you enter the Lower Ribbon and press the ARROW keys to move
between items
in
a group, you can skip items and unexpectedly move into another
group.
Pressing TAB gives no indication that you have left one group
and entered
another. Using first letter navigation to find items can be
difficult and
frustrating. Finally, because of a group’s layout, you do not
know if you
should navigate up, down, left, or right to select an item.
The new Virtual Ribbon Menu provides predictable navigation,
lets you see
everything in the Ribbon, and offers consistency when navigating
with
ARROW
keys. For example, the ARROW and TAB keys move focus from the
Upper
Ribbon
tabs to the Lower Ribbon groups. Once in a group, the ARROW,
TAB, and
SHIFT+TAB keys move through all items in a group, move from one
group to
the
next, and wrap to the beginning of the Ribbon. For submenus,
SPACEBAR and
ENTER expand menus, and ESCAPE collapses menus. The Virtual
Ribbon Menu
is
off by default and can be switched on or off from within
Settings Center
or
the JAWS Startup Wizard. When it is on, the Ribbon is navigated
using a
traditional menu and submenu format familiar to most JAWS users.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
jaws 13
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:23 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
What version of JAWS are you using?
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility
Hi all,
Seems like the office suite is less user friendly with the new
ribbons.
Occasionally I find a button unlabeled.
Anyway, is access and Publisher accessible at all? I’d like to
create
simple charts with publisher and maybe brochures if I volunteer
for pr
somewhere.
Is excell still accessible?
I’ll need the access database for work probably.
Ashley
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