[nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

Mon Jan 23 22:41:21 UTC 2012

Windows 7 can read DOC (the older Word version) files, and you 
can save files you write in Word 2010 as either DOCX (word 2010) 
or DOC (Word 2003.) But, as far as I know, you can't read DOCX 
with Word 2003.

Chris

"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The 
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that 
exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and 
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical 
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Date sent: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:34:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

OOh, you can read 2010 documents if you have word 2003? I thought 
earlier
versions could not read new versions.  But new versions can  read 
old ones.
I need 2010 for the advanced features of it.  And that is what my 
class uses.

But, yeah I'll think about loading the old one on my laptop or 
vice versa.  I
could uninstall this new one on the desktop and put 2003 on it 
and have 2010
on the laptop.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:08 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

As far as my experience, there is no advantage to using 2007 or 
2010,
especially if you find 2003.  Files created using 2007 and 2010 
can still be
read and edited using 2003.  I will leave it up to you, but my 
recommendation
is to use Office 2003.  There are ways to have both, but they are 
not easy or
convenient.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

its my computer.  Gee would be nice to have both versions

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:46 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

No, you cannot.  Is this your computer? If so, I would strongly 
recommend
just uninstalling the current version of Office and installing 
Office 2003.
If it is not your computer, then maybe you could talk to someone 
who has the
authority to do it and explain that it would make things a 
million times
easier.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

Nicole,
I think I have an old cd with office 2003 around.  Do you know if 
I can have
them concurrently on the computer?
It just would be nice to have both options; so if I cannot figure 
out where
something is in the ribbons, I can go back to the nice, simple 
menus of
2003.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 7:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

Yes.  The excerpt is from the "What's New in JAWS 12.0" section.  
I do not
have Office 2007 or 2010, so I unfortunately cannot tell you how 
well it
works, but it is probably better than nothing.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arielle Silverman" <arielle71 at gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:00 PM
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Does JAWS 12 have this?
Arielle

On 1/22/12, Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home 
<ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
 Do you know how to use the quick settings in JAWS? Copied from 
the JAWS 13
 help:

 Virtual Ribbon Menu
 The Ribbon is a new style of menu available in many new 
applications being
 released today.  Ribbons first appeared in Office 2007 programs, 
but are
 now
 becoming more common in other applications tailored for the 
Windows 7
 operating system.  Ribbons create an accessibility challenge due 
to
 inconsistent navigation between various groups and items.  For 
example,
 when
 you enter the Lower Ribbon and press the ARROW keys to move 
between items
 in
 a group, you can skip items and unexpectedly move into another 
group.
 Pressing TAB gives no indication that you have left one group 
and entered
 another.  Using first letter navigation to find items can be 
difficult and
 frustrating.  Finally, because of a group’s layout, you do not 
know if you
 should navigate up, down, left, or right to select an item.

 The new Virtual Ribbon Menu provides predictable navigation, 
lets you see
 everything in the Ribbon, and offers consistency when navigating 
with
 ARROW
 keys.  For example, the ARROW and TAB keys move focus from the 
Upper Ribbon
 tabs to the Lower Ribbon groups.  Once in a group, the ARROW, 
TAB, and
 SHIFT+TAB keys move through all items in a group, move from one 
group to
 the
 next, and wrap to the beginning of the Ribbon.  For submenus, 
SPACEBAR and
 ENTER expand menus, and ESCAPE collapses menus.  The Virtual 
Ribbon Menu is
 off by default and can be switched on or off from within 
Settings Center
 or
 the JAWS Startup Wizard.  When it is on, the Ribbon is navigated 
using a
 traditional menu and submenu format familiar to most JAWS users.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
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 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

 jaws 13

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Nicole B.  Torcolini at Home
 Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 6:23 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

 What version of JAWS are you using?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
 To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:08 PM
 Subject: [nabs-l] microsoft product accessibility

 Hi all,

 Seems like the office suite is less user friendly with the new 
ribbons.
 Occasionally I find a button unlabeled.
 Anyway, is access and Publisher accessible at all? I’d like to 
create
 simple charts with publisher and maybe brochures if I volunteer 
for pr
 somewhere.
 Is excell still accessible?
 I’ll need the access database for work probably.

 Ashley
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