[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Fri Jul 13 11:58:14 UTC 2012

Hi,
I just have a question or concern. I know this is a list for blind students, 
so I would imagine that there are many or some under aged persons on this 
list. I am saying I am not trying to tell others what they should or should 
not be saying, but if there are younger people on this list reading the 
comments, I feel we should be careful how descriptive in our conversations. 
Don't take offence just a precaution.
Thanks
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Desiree Oudinot" <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum


> Hi Brandon,
> Again, you're making a lot of valid points, but I have to question one
> statement you made concerning seeing couples making out and all that.
> Sighted people don't just watch what's being done and then
> automatically do it right 100% of the time, either. In fact, with sex
> there is no right or wrong, just what turns each individual on.
> Learning what that is in each new relationship is like driving a new
> car. You may know the rules of the road, but depending on the size of
> the car, the speed you're going, how much traffic is on the road, and
> other factors, you're going to have to navigate with more or less
> caution each time. Only by mastering each route as you become more
> comfortable with it can you fall into a pattern and stick with it. But
> if you're used to driving on quiet country roads, and then all of a
> sudden you move to New York City, you have to completely change your
> approach. Do you see where my analogy is heading? It's not sight or
> lack thereof that determines how much pleasure one can receive
> intimately. It's the individuals in question, their level of
> attraction, and how well they can communicate with each other to say
> what feels good and what doesn't. Because let's face it, there's a lot
> of feeling. If we spent all our time studying and copying others, we
> would all enjoy the same things done the exact same way. And, as I was
> starting to say in the beginning of my message, practice makes
> perfect. No one knows for sure what works and what doesn't the first
> few times, or the first few times in each successive relationship.
> Also, I forgot to address something you said in your first message
> concerning buying condoms. Honestly, sighted people have anonnymity
> when they do this. Whether a blind person knows what kind they want or
> not, they have to face the embarrassment of going up to the counter,
> asking for assistance, and then having to tell the clerk what they
> want. Unfortunately, there's just no way around that, so either way we
> lose on that scale. Maybe ordering them online could be an option if
> people don't want to take that route. Frankly, when I was a teenager,
> I wouldn't have felt comfortable with that either.
>
> On 7/12/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Joshua,
>> Nope; we are at a disadvantage in learning about sex. I think this 
>> survey
>> is a good idea.
>> Without any vision, perhaps you don't realize how visual stuff is and 
>> what
>> you are missing. Sex is portrayed in videos and pictures. Sighted kids 
>> learn
>>
>> from tv, movies, books and magazines. We do not see those pictures.
>> I remember this  sex stuff as part of health class. We did not discuss
>> anything controversial. We just learned about the body parts and 
>> functions;
>>
>> however, it was  kind of confusing without the visual pictures.
>> Come on, even if you wait til marriage, do you really want your wife
>> teaching you basic stuff about this activity?
>> Also, books do not mean much without a reference explaining the act. I 
>> know
>>
>> from experience. When a book says a certain term, I had no clue what it
>> meant without looking it up! I won't get into details other than to say I
>> know less about sex than my peers my age.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:10 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>>
>> Hi, Amber!
>> You're right!
>> BTW, I like the lyrics in your signature!
>> That's one of my favorite songs!
>> Welcome to the list!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 7/12/12, Herrin, Amber R. <herrinar at muohio.edu> wrote:
>>> Dear Joshua,
>>>
>>> I have to agree with you here!  For me, the idea of knowing about sex,
>>> before I'm sharing it with my husband, is kind of...unnecessary, I 
>>> guess?
>>> Maybe the wrong answer, and I understand that not everyone believes you
>>> should wait until marriage as I do, but I think that being blind doesn't
>>> prevent us from finding out about it the same way sighted people
>>> do-experiment (isn't that what most people do anyway?) or read books
>>> written
>>> on the topic (how confusing can text be?)
>>>
>>> Amber R. Herrin
>>> Assistive Technology Trainer in Training: 2012
>>> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
>>> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
>>> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
>>> Impossible is not a word
>>> It's just a reason
>>> For someone not to try
>>>
>>> Everybody's scared to death
>>> When they decide to take that step
>>> Out on the water
>>> It'll be alright
>>>
>>> Life is so much more
>>> Than what your eyes are seeing
>>> You will find your way
>>> If you keep believing"
>>> -Kutless "What Faith Can Do"
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:35 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>>>
>>> I personally did fine, in those courses, in school, without the new
>>> proposed
>>> curriculum, that they're wanting.
>>> I don't see the need for one, because who really wants to know, what's
>>> being
>>> shown, in those slides?
>>> Good grief!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/11/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have been asked to circulate the following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dear NFB Member,
>>>>>The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to help
>>>>>us with a current project.
>>>>>
>>>>>We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help us
>>>>>write a curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in the
>>>>>area of sex education.  Currently no curriculum exists for students
>>>>>with low vision and blindness that reflect current education
>>>>>standards.  Young people, educators, and professionals have all
>>>>>indicated that there is a desperate need for such a curriculum.
>>>>>We want your voice to impact our work!
>>>>>Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found below:
>>>>><https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.surveym
>>>>>onkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
>>>>>
>>>>><https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=https:/
>>>>>/www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
>>>>>Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you,
>>>>>Mika Baugh
>>>>>National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>200 East Wells Street
>>>>>      at Jernigan Place
>>>>>Baltimore, MD 21230
>>>>>P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371
>>>>>E: <mailto:mbaugh at nfb.org>mbaugh at nfb.org
>>>>>W: <http://www.nfb.org>www.nfb.org
>>>>>
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