[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Fri Jul 13 12:04:27 UTC 2012

Hi Gloria.
We've already beat this dead horse, yesterday.
Again, I ask that this thread go away, because as others have said, it
has run its course.
Thanks, Joshua

On 7/13/12, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I just have a question or concern. I know this is a list for blind students,
>
> so I would imagine that there are many or some under aged persons on this
> list. I am saying I am not trying to tell others what they should or should
>
> not be saying, but if there are younger people on this list reading the
> comments, I feel we should be careful how descriptive in our conversations.
>
> Don't take offence just a precaution.
> Thanks
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Desiree Oudinot" <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
>
>> Hi Brandon,
>> Again, you're making a lot of valid points, but I have to question one
>> statement you made concerning seeing couples making out and all that.
>> Sighted people don't just watch what's being done and then
>> automatically do it right 100% of the time, either. In fact, with sex
>> there is no right or wrong, just what turns each individual on.
>> Learning what that is in each new relationship is like driving a new
>> car. You may know the rules of the road, but depending on the size of
>> the car, the speed you're going, how much traffic is on the road, and
>> other factors, you're going to have to navigate with more or less
>> caution each time. Only by mastering each route as you become more
>> comfortable with it can you fall into a pattern and stick with it. But
>> if you're used to driving on quiet country roads, and then all of a
>> sudden you move to New York City, you have to completely change your
>> approach. Do you see where my analogy is heading? It's not sight or
>> lack thereof that determines how much pleasure one can receive
>> intimately. It's the individuals in question, their level of
>> attraction, and how well they can communicate with each other to say
>> what feels good and what doesn't. Because let's face it, there's a lot
>> of feeling. If we spent all our time studying and copying others, we
>> would all enjoy the same things done the exact same way. And, as I was
>> starting to say in the beginning of my message, practice makes
>> perfect. No one knows for sure what works and what doesn't the first
>> few times, or the first few times in each successive relationship.
>> Also, I forgot to address something you said in your first message
>> concerning buying condoms. Honestly, sighted people have anonnymity
>> when they do this. Whether a blind person knows what kind they want or
>> not, they have to face the embarrassment of going up to the counter,
>> asking for assistance, and then having to tell the clerk what they
>> want. Unfortunately, there's just no way around that, so either way we
>> lose on that scale. Maybe ordering them online could be an option if
>> people don't want to take that route. Frankly, when I was a teenager,
>> I wouldn't have felt comfortable with that either.
>>
>> On 7/12/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Joshua,
>>> Nope; we are at a disadvantage in learning about sex. I think this
>>> survey
>>> is a good idea.
>>> Without any vision, perhaps you don't realize how visual stuff is and
>>> what
>>> you are missing. Sex is portrayed in videos and pictures. Sighted kids
>>> learn
>>>
>>> from tv, movies, books and magazines. We do not see those pictures.
>>> I remember this  sex stuff as part of health class. We did not discuss
>>> anything controversial. We just learned about the body parts and
>>> functions;
>>>
>>> however, it was  kind of confusing without the visual pictures.
>>> Come on, even if you wait til marriage, do you really want your wife
>>> teaching you basic stuff about this activity?
>>> Also, books do not mean much without a reference explaining the act. I
>>> know
>>>
>>> from experience. When a book says a certain term, I had no clue what it
>>> meant without looking it up! I won't get into details other than to say
>>> I
>>> know less about sex than my peers my age.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:10 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>>>
>>> Hi, Amber!
>>> You're right!
>>> BTW, I like the lyrics in your signature!
>>> That's one of my favorite songs!
>>> Welcome to the list!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 7/12/12, Herrin, Amber R. <herrinar at muohio.edu> wrote:
>>>> Dear Joshua,
>>>>
>>>> I have to agree with you here!  For me, the idea of knowing about sex,
>>>> before I'm sharing it with my husband, is kind of...unnecessary, I
>>>> guess?
>>>> Maybe the wrong answer, and I understand that not everyone believes you
>>>> should wait until marriage as I do, but I think that being blind
>>>> doesn't
>>>> prevent us from finding out about it the same way sighted people
>>>> do-experiment (isn't that what most people do anyway?) or read books
>>>> written
>>>> on the topic (how confusing can text be?)
>>>>
>>>> Amber R. Herrin
>>>> Assistive Technology Trainer in Training: 2012
>>>> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
>>>> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
>>>> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
>>>> Impossible is not a word
>>>> It's just a reason
>>>> For someone not to try
>>>>
>>>> Everybody's scared to death
>>>> When they decide to take that step
>>>> Out on the water
>>>> It'll be alright
>>>>
>>>> Life is so much more
>>>> Than what your eyes are seeing
>>>> You will find your way
>>>> If you keep believing"
>>>> -Kutless "What Faith Can Do"
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Joshua Lester
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:35 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>>>>
>>>> I personally did fine, in those courses, in school, without the new
>>>> proposed
>>>> curriculum, that they're wanting.
>>>> I don't see the need for one, because who really wants to know, what's
>>>> being
>>>> shown, in those slides?
>>>> Good grief!
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 7/11/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have been asked to circulate the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear NFB Member,
>>>>>>The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to help
>>>>>>us with a current project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help us
>>>>>>write a curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in the
>>>>>>area of sex education.  Currently no curriculum exists for students
>>>>>>with low vision and blindness that reflect current education
>>>>>>standards.  Young people, educators, and professionals have all
>>>>>>indicated that there is a desperate need for such a curriculum.
>>>>>>We want your voice to impact our work!
>>>>>>Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found below:
>>>>>><https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.surveym
>>>>>>onkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
>>>>>>
>>>>>><https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=https:/
>>>>>>/www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
>>>>>>Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you,
>>>>>>Mika Baugh
>>>>>>National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>>200 East Wells Street
>>>>>>      at Jernigan Place
>>>>>>Baltimore, MD 21230
>>>>>>P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371
>>>>>>E: <mailto:mbaugh at nfb.org>mbaugh at nfb.org
>>>>>>W: <http://www.nfb.org>www.nfb.org
>>>>>>
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