[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Fri Jul 13 16:53:13 UTC 2012

Sounds logical to me!
Stop answering posts to make them go away!
Deb
On Jul 13, 2012 8:57 AM, "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:

> Joshua,
> No offense or anything, but if you want this thread to go away, then why do
> you keep responding to the emails? It seems to me that more emails would
> cause more discussion...
> Best, Hannah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Joshua Lester
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 5:04 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
> Hi Gloria.
> We've already beat this dead horse, yesterday.
> Again, I ask that this thread go away, because as others have said, it has
> run its course.
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 7/13/12, Gloria G <gloria.graves at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I just have a question or concern. I know this is a list for blind
> > students,
> >
> > so I would imagine that there are many or some under aged persons on
> > this list. I am saying I am not trying to tell others what they should
> > or should
> >
> > not be saying, but if there are younger people on this list reading
> > the comments, I feel we should be careful how descriptive in our
> conversations.
> >
> > Don't take offence just a precaution.
> > Thanks
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Desiree Oudinot" <turtlepower17 at gmail.com>
> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> >
> >
> >> Hi Brandon,
> >> Again, you're making a lot of valid points, but I have to question
> >> one statement you made concerning seeing couples making out and all
> that.
> >> Sighted people don't just watch what's being done and then
> >> automatically do it right 100% of the time, either. In fact, with sex
> >> there is no right or wrong, just what turns each individual on.
> >> Learning what that is in each new relationship is like driving a new
> >> car. You may know the rules of the road, but depending on the size of
> >> the car, the speed you're going, how much traffic is on the road, and
> >> other factors, you're going to have to navigate with more or less
> >> caution each time. Only by mastering each route as you become more
> >> comfortable with it can you fall into a pattern and stick with it.
> >> But if you're used to driving on quiet country roads, and then all of
> >> a sudden you move to New York City, you have to completely change
> >> your approach. Do you see where my analogy is heading? It's not sight
> >> or lack thereof that determines how much pleasure one can receive
> >> intimately. It's the individuals in question, their level of
> >> attraction, and how well they can communicate with each other to say
> >> what feels good and what doesn't. Because let's face it, there's a
> >> lot of feeling. If we spent all our time studying and copying others,
> >> we would all enjoy the same things done the exact same way. And, as I
> >> was starting to say in the beginning of my message, practice makes
> >> perfect. No one knows for sure what works and what doesn't the first
> >> few times, or the first few times in each successive relationship.
> >> Also, I forgot to address something you said in your first message
> >> concerning buying condoms. Honestly, sighted people have anonnymity
> >> when they do this. Whether a blind person knows what kind they want
> >> or not, they have to face the embarrassment of going up to the
> >> counter, asking for assistance, and then having to tell the clerk
> >> what they want. Unfortunately, there's just no way around that, so
> >> either way we lose on that scale. Maybe ordering them online could be
> >> an option if people don't want to take that route. Frankly, when I
> >> was a teenager, I wouldn't have felt comfortable with that either.
> >>
> >> On 7/12/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>> Joshua,
> >>> Nope; we are at a disadvantage in learning about sex. I think this
> >>> survey is a good idea.
> >>> Without any vision, perhaps you don't realize how visual stuff is
> >>> and what you are missing. Sex is portrayed in videos and pictures.
> >>> Sighted kids learn
> >>>
> >>> from tv, movies, books and magazines. We do not see those pictures.
> >>> I remember this  sex stuff as part of health class. We did not
> >>> discuss anything controversial. We just learned about the body parts
> >>> and functions;
> >>>
> >>> however, it was  kind of confusing without the visual pictures.
> >>> Come on, even if you wait til marriage, do you really want your wife
> >>> teaching you basic stuff about this activity?
> >>> Also, books do not mean much without a reference explaining the act.
> >>> I know
> >>>
> >>> from experience. When a book says a certain term, I had no clue what
> >>> it meant without looking it up! I won't get into details other than
> >>> to say I know less about sex than my peers my age.
> >>>
> >>> Ashley
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Joshua Lester
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:10 PM
> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> >>>
> >>> Hi, Amber!
> >>> You're right!
> >>> BTW, I like the lyrics in your signature!
> >>> That's one of my favorite songs!
> >>> Welcome to the list!
> >>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>
> >>> On 7/12/12, Herrin, Amber R. <herrinar at muohio.edu> wrote:
> >>>> Dear Joshua,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have to agree with you here!  For me, the idea of knowing about
> >>>> sex, before I'm sharing it with my husband, is kind
> >>>> of...unnecessary, I guess?
> >>>> Maybe the wrong answer, and I understand that not everyone believes
> >>>> you should wait until marriage as I do, but I think that being
> >>>> blind doesn't prevent us from finding out about it the same way
> >>>> sighted people do-experiment (isn't that what most people do
> >>>> anyway?) or read books written on the topic (how confusing can text
> >>>> be?)
> >>>>
> >>>> Amber R. Herrin
> >>>> Assistive Technology Trainer in Training: 2012
> >>>> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
> >>>> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
> >>>> "It doesn't matter what you've heard Impossible is not a word It's
> >>>> just a reason For someone not to try
> >>>>
> >>>> Everybody's scared to death
> >>>> When they decide to take that step
> >>>> Out on the water
> >>>> It'll be alright
> >>>>
> >>>> Life is so much more
> >>>> Than what your eyes are seeing
> >>>> You will find your way
> >>>> If you keep believing"
> >>>> -Kutless "What Faith Can Do"
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:35 PM
> >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> >>>>
> >>>> I personally did fine, in those courses, in school, without the new
> >>>> proposed curriculum, that they're wanting.
> >>>> I don't see the need for one, because who really wants to know,
> >>>> what's being shown, in those slides?
> >>>> Good grief!
> >>>> Blessings, Joshua
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/11/12, David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I have been asked to circulate the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Dear NFB Member,
> >>>>>>The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to
> >>>>>>help us with a current project.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help
> >>>>>>us write a curriculum for students with low vision and blindness
> >>>>>>in the area of sex education.  Currently no curriculum exists for
> >>>>>>students with low vision and blindness that reflect current
> >>>>>>education standards.  Young people, educators, and professionals
> >>>>>>have all indicated that there is a desperate need for such a
> curriculum.
> >>>>>>We want your voice to impact our work!
> >>>>>>Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found below:
> >>>>>><https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.sur
> >>>>>>veym
> >>>>>>onkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>><https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=htt
> >>>>>>ps:/ /www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
> >>>>>>Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thank you,
> >>>>>>Mika Baugh
> >>>>>>National Federation of the Blind
> >>>>>>200 East Wells Street
> >>>>>>      at Jernigan Place
> >>>>>>Baltimore, MD 21230
> >>>>>>P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371
> >>>>>>E: <mailto:mbaugh at nfb.org>mbaugh at nfb.org
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> >>>>>>
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