[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Mon Jul 16 17:05:36 UTC 2012

I know. How is it that people, due to a coincidental absence of  an 
ocular, input get off thinking themselves special that they require 
some  overly adapted curriculum or equipment for participating in one 
of life's building blocks? I mean, how 'bout a special blinkie 
toilet? This is how a blind man wipes his ass, see look, it's 
especially adapted for the sightless among us, it's made for the ass 
of a blind man, nobody else can use it. How is sex ed different than 
math or science or any thing else?  Most
>subjects have a visual component.  Does that mean  that we need a
>special curriculum for every thing?  You learn about sex in the same way
>you learn about any other social interaction.  Like some other people on
>the list, I don't understand why this can't be discussed openly on the
>list.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Desiree Oudinot
>Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:07 PM
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
>Hi all,
>I don't see why this discussion should be banned from the list. This is
>just my opinion, and I don't mean to be rude, but it seems to me that
>there is a lot of hesitation and outright disgust that's being talked
>about here. And, let's be honest, how are we ever going to clear up
>people's misconceptions if we don't talk about them?
>I think it's probably easier for people to discuss these matters on a
>list where they can be anonymous. Given the ages of some of the people
>here, I can see why there would be some embarrassment involved if some
>of you don't know what certain things are. I think it's probably
>beneficial at this point to try and help each other out. It's a little
>late for us to have better sex ed, so why not try to stop all this
>nervous tittering about terminology? The terms Brandon used weren't
>offensive. They were the anatomically correct terms. Plus, while I hink
>the examples he uses are slightly exaggerated, that's not to say they
>can never happen, and I think if we're going to have a discussion of
>this nature, we need to be up front about it. We're all adults here, or
>at least the age of consent.
>I'm not talking about some of the religious convictions that certain
>members have expressed. Those are personal, and if that's how you feel,
>there's nothing wrong with that. But please take a step outside those
>for a moment and think of how this discussion benefits others who are
>reading. I'll bet there are some people who are sitting here reading
>this, and have questions and concerns they would like to express, but
>feel they can't for whatever reason. I implore you all not to ruin it
>for those who really could use this information.
>
>On 7/12/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Don't take this the wrong way, but if any of you have anatomy
> > questions, you can email me offlist at arielle71 at gmail.com Seriously,
> > I did learn a lot about this stuff in my biology classes.
> > Best,
> > Arielle
> >
> > On 7/12/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Ashley,
> >> I believe you didn't know about any of these things because you
> >> didn't inform yourself, not because you are blind...
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jul 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Ashley Bramlett
> >> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sophie,
> >>> I, too, took a sex ed class and it was useful. But, we still lack
> >>> knowledge usually. I don't think this replaces school education, it
> >>> supplements it.
> >>> Having nonvisual access such as a description, diagrams, or model
> >>> would further aide in  our understanding of such a matter.
> >>> Guys you may want to skip the next paragraph.
> >>>
> >>> For instance, My brother's wife just had a baby; having not seen or
> >>> been explained what the birth process is, I don't have a clue what
>its about.
> >>> What are contractions? What is ambiotic fluid and what is its role
> >>> in supporting the fetus? I still don't understand how a baby gets
> >>> nurishment as its in the mother. I know from the mother's food, but
> >>> just how I don't understand.
> >>> They told me Steve, my brother, cut the umbilical cord.
> >>> But where is that on the baby and mother? Kasey told me she started
> >>> labour in the evening and went to the hospital; she did not have the
>
> >>> baby til next afternoon! I asked her how she managed it; wasn't she
> >>> tired? She informed me she slept a little during the night. She told
>
> >>> me the baby's head came out first which was normal. I did not know
> >>> this. I learned from her as I held my nephew that the head came out
> >>> first and then the trunk and limbs. I learned that babies cried
> >>> after they came out of the womb.
> >>> I
> >>> learned that infants needed to get milk very often. I am hoping
> >>> Kasey will tell me more about her pregnancy and the beginnings of
> >>> it, AKA, the sex part sometime.
> >>>
> >>> I think I'll take that survey that started this.
> >>> Ashley
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Sophie Trist
> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:37 PM
> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> >>>
> >>> Dave, I'm a little confused. I'm going into tenth grade, and I took
> >>> a sex ed class in seventh grade. I found it to be very informative
> >>> despite my blindness. I don't understand why we need a special
> >>> curriculum for sex ed.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
> >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> >>> Date sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:52:03 -0500
> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have been asked to circulate the following:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear NFB Member,
> >>> The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to
> >>> help us with a current project.
> >>>
> >>> We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help us
> >>> write a curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in the
>
> >>> area of sex education.  Currently no curriculum exists for students
> >>> with low vision and blindness that reflect current education
> >>> standards.  Young people, educators, and professionals have all
> >>> indicated that there is a desperate need for such a curriculum.
> >>> We want your voice to impact our work!
> >>> Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found
> >>> below:
> >>> <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.su
> >>> rveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
> >>> 
> <https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=ht>>> 
>   tps://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
> >>> Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Mika Baugh
> >>> National Federation of the Blind
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