[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
Carly Mihalakis
carlymih at comcast.net
Mon Jul 16 20:25:10 UTC 2012
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Afternoon, Ashley,
Bad language? I was talking about a donkey.At 01:19 PM 7/16/2012, you wrote:
>Carley, Can you refrain from using bad language.
>Others have already said its not a separate
>curriculum. Did you all who complain take the
>survey? I did not yet. But due to the visual
>stuff about it, it’s a good idea. We cannot se
>it in movies, in magazines, or making out in
>public. I think a book about it and the
>reproductive system woule be real helpful. I
>would love to see the curriculum once
>developed. Ashley -----Original Message-----
>From: Carly Mihalakis Sent: Monday, July 16,
>2012 1:05 PM To: National Association of Blind
>Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex
>Education Curriculum I know. How is it that
>people, due to a coincidental absence of an
>ocular, input get off thinking themselves
>special that they require some overly adapted
>curriculum or equipment for participating in one
>of life's building blocks? I mean, how 'bout a
>special blinkie toilet? This is how a blind man
>wipes his ass, see look, it's especially adapted
>for the sightless among us, it's made for the
>ass of a blind man, nobody else can use it. How
>is sex ed different than math or science or any
>thing else? Most >subjects have a visual
>component. Does that mean that we need
>a >special curriculum for every thing? You
>learn about sex in the same way >you learn about
>any other social interaction. Like some other
>people on >the list, I don't understand why this
>can't be discussed openly on
>the >list. > >-----Original Message----- >From:
>nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of
>Desiree Oudinot >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012
>11:07 PM >To: National Association of Blind
>Students mailing list >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex
>Education Curriculum > >Hi all, >I don't see why
>this discussion should be banned from the list.
>This is >just my opinion, and I don't mean to be
>rude, but it seems to me that >there is a lot of
>hesitation and outright disgust that's being
>talked >about here. And, let's be honest, how
>are we ever going to clear up >people's
>misconceptions if we don't talk about them? >I
>think it's probably easier for people to discuss
>these matters on a >list where they can be
>anonymous. Given the ages of some of the
>people >here, I can see why there would be some
>embarrassment involved if some >of you don't
>know what certain things are. I think it's
>probably >beneficial at this point to try and
>help each other out. It's a little >late for us
>to have better sex ed, so why not try to stop
>all this >nervous tittering about terminology?
>The terms Brandon used weren't >offensive. They
>were the anatomically correct terms. Plus, while
>I hink >the examples he uses are slightly
>exaggerated, that's not to say they >can never
>happen, and I think if we're going to have a
>discussion of >this nature, we need to be up
>front about it. We're all adults here, or >at
>least the age of consent. >I'm not talking about
>some of the religious convictions that
>certain >members have expressed. Those are
>personal, and if that's how you feel, >there's
>nothing wrong with that. But please take a step
>outside those >for a moment and think of how
>this discussion benefits others who
>are >reading. I'll bet there are some people who
>are sitting here reading >this, and have
>questions and concerns they would like to
>express, but >feel they can't for whatever
>reason. I implore you all not to ruin it >for
>those who really could use this
>information. > >On 7/12/12, Arielle Silverman
><arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > >
>Don't take this the wrong way, but if any of you
>have anatomy > > questions, you can email me
>offlist at arielle71 at gmail.com Seriously, > > I
>did learn a lot about this stuff in my biology
>classes. > > Best, > > Arielle > > > > On
>7/12/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com>
>wrote: > >> Ashley, > >> I believe you didn't
>know about any of these things because you > >>
>didn't inform yourself, not because you are
>blind... > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>
>On Jul 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Ashley
>Bramlett > >> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> > >>
>wrote: > >> > >>> Sophie, > >>> I, too, took a
>sex ed class and it was useful. But, we still
>lack > >>> knowledge usually. I don't think this
>replaces school education, it > >>> supplements
>it. > >>> Having nonvisual access such as a
>description, diagrams, or model > >>> would
>further aide in our understanding of such a
>matter. > >>> Guys you may want to skip the next
>paragraph. > >>> > >>> For instance, My
>brother's wife just had a baby; having not seen
>or > >>> been explained what the birth process
>is, I don't have a clue what >its about. > >>>
>What are contractions? What is ambiotic fluid
>and what is its role > >>> in supporting the
>fetus? I still don't understand how a baby
>gets > >>> nurishment as its in the mother. I
>know from the mother's food, but > >>> just how
>I don't understand. > >>> They told me Steve, my
>brother, cut the umbilical cord. > >>> But where
>is that on the baby and mother? Kasey told me
>she started > >>> labour in the evening and went
>to the hospital; she did not have the > > >>>
>baby til next afternoon! I asked her how she
>managed it; wasn't she > >>> tired? She informed
>me she slept a little during the night. She
>told > > >>> me the baby's head came out first
>which was normal. I did not know > >>> this. I
>learned from her as I held my nephew that the
>head came out > >>> first and then the trunk and
>limbs. I learned that babies cried > >>> after
>they came out of the womb. > >>> I > >>> learned
>that infants needed to get milk very often. I am
>hoping > >>> Kasey will tell me more about her
>pregnancy and the beginnings of > >>> it, AKA,
>the sex part sometime. > >>> > >>> I think I'll
>take that survey that started this. > >>>
>Ashley > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>From: Sophie Trist > >>> Sent: Thursday, July
>12, 2012 1:37 PM > >>> To: National Association
>of Blind Students mailing list > >>> Subject:
>Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education
>Curriculum > >>> > >>> Dave, I'm a little
>confused. I'm going into tenth grade, and I
>took > >>> a sex ed class in seventh grade. I
>found it to be very informative > >>> despite my
>blindness. I don't understand why we need a
>special > >>> curriculum for sex ed. > >>> > >>>
>----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: David
>Andrews <dandrews at visi.com > >>> To:
>nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>> Date sent: Wed, 11 Jul
>2012 20:52:03 -0500 > >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Sex
>Education Curriculum > >>> > >>> > >>> I have
>been asked to circulate the
>following: > >>> > >>> > >>>
>Dave > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear NFB
>Member, > >>> The National Federation of the
>Blind has been gracious enough to > >>> help us
>with a current project. > >>> > >>> We are
>currently seeking your opinion in a survey that
>will help us > >>> write a curriculum for
>students with low vision and blindness in
>the > > >>> area of sex education. Currently no
>curriculum exists for students > >>> with low
>vision and blindness that reflect current
>education > >>> standards. Young people,
>educators, and professionals have all > >>>
>indicated that there is a desperate need for
>such a curriculum. > >>> We want your voice to
>impact our work! > >>> Please take the time to
>fill out the survey at the link found > >>>
>below: > >>>
><https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.su
> > >>>
>rveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey > >>> >
><https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=ht>>>
> >
>tps://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey >
> >>> > >>> > >>> Thank you for your time and
>consideration of this project! > >>> Tiffany
>Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin
>Ryan > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>>
>Mika Baugh > >>> National Federation of the
>Blind > >>> 200 East Wells Street > >>> at
>Jernigan Place > >>> Baltimore, MD 21230 > >>>
>P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371 > >>> E:
><mailto:mbaugh at nfb.org>mbaugh at nfb.org > >>> W:
><http://www.nfb.org>www.nfb.org > >>> > >>>
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