[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

[Valerie Gibson]

I'm just going to say one thing:
whomever brought up this topic: i could hit you upside the head with a wet noodle. :P
That is all. I  love a good debate as much as the next person, but we're going around in circles here.
On Jul 16, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Carly Mihalakis wrote:

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> Afternoon, Ashley,
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> Bad language? I was talking about a donkey.At 01:19 PM 7/16/2012, you wrote:
>> Carley, Can you refrain from using bad language. Others have already said its not a separate curriculum. Did you all who complain take the survey? I did not yet. But due to the visual stuff about it, it’s a good idea. We cannot se it in movies, in magazines, or making out in public. I think a book about it and the reproductive system woule be real helpful. I would love to see the  curriculum once developed. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 1:05 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum I know. How is it that people, due to a coincidental absence of  an ocular, input get off thinking themselves special that they require some  overly adapted curriculum or equipment for participating in one of life's building blocks? I mean, how 'bout a special blinkie toilet? This is how a blind man wipes his ass, see look, it's especially adapted for the sightless among us, it's made for the ass of a blind man, nobody else can use it. How is sex ed different than math or science or any thing else?  Most >subjects have a visual component.  Does that mean  that we need a >special curriculum for every thing?  You learn about sex in the same way >you learn about any other social interaction.  Like some other people on >the list, I don't understand why this can't be discussed openly on the >list. > >-----Original Message----- >From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On >Behalf Of Desiree Oudinot >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:07 PM >To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum > >Hi all, >I don't see why this discussion should be banned from the list. This is >just my opinion, and I don't mean to be rude, but it seems to me that >there is a lot of hesitation and outright disgust that's being talked >about here. And, let's be honest, how are we ever going to clear up >people's misconceptions if we don't talk about them? >I think it's probably easier for people to discuss these matters on a >list where they can be anonymous. Given the ages of some of the people >here, I can see why there would be some embarrassment involved if some >of you don't know what certain things are. I think it's probably >beneficial at this point to try and help each other out. It's a little >late for us to have better sex ed, so why not try to stop all this >nervous tittering about terminology? The terms Brandon used weren't >offensive. They were the anatomically correct terms. Plus, while I hink >the examples he uses are slightly exaggerated, that's not to say they >can never happen, and I think if we're going to have a discussion of >this nature, we need to be up front about it. We're all adults here, or >at least the age of consent. >I'm not talking about some of the religious convictions that certain >members have expressed. Those are personal, and if that's how you feel, >there's nothing wrong with that. But please take a step outside those >for a moment and think of how this discussion benefits others who are >reading. I'll bet there are some people who are sitting here reading >this, and have questions and concerns they would like to express, but >feel they can't for whatever reason. I implore you all not to ruin it >for those who really could use this information. > >On 7/12/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Don't take this the wrong way, but if any of you have anatomy > > questions, you can email me offlist at arielle71 at gmail.com Seriously, > > I did learn a lot about this stuff in my biology classes. > > Best, > > Arielle > > > > On 7/12/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ashley, > >> I believe you didn't know about any of these things because you > >> didn't inform yourself, not because you are blind... > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Jul 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Ashley Bramlett > >> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Sophie, > >>> I, too, took a sex ed class and it was useful. But, we still lack > >>> knowledge usually. I don't think this replaces school education, it > >>> supplements it. > >>> Having nonvisual access such as a description, diagrams, or model > >>> would further aide in  our understanding of such a matter. > >>> Guys you may want to skip the next paragraph. > >>> > >>> For instance, My brother's wife just had a baby; having not seen or > >>> been explained what the birth process is, I don't have a clue what >its about. > >>> What are contractions? What is ambiotic fluid and what is its role > >>> in supporting the fetus? I still don't understand how a baby gets > >>> nurishment as its in the mother. I know from the mother's food, but > >>> just how I don't understand. > >>> They told me Steve, my brother, cut the umbilical cord. > >>> But where is that on the baby and mother? Kasey told me she started > >>> labour in the evening and went to the hospital; she did not have the > > >>> baby til next afternoon! I asked her how she managed it; wasn't she > >>> tired? She informed me she slept a little during the night. She told > > >>> me the baby's head came out first which was normal. I did not know > >>> this. I learned from her as I held my nephew that the head came out > >>> first and then the trunk and limbs. I learned that babies cried > >>> after they came out of the womb. > >>> I > >>> learned that infants needed to get milk very often. I am hoping > >>> Kasey will tell me more about her pregnancy and the beginnings of > >>> it, AKA, the sex part sometime. > >>> > >>> I think I'll take that survey that started this. > >>> Ashley > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- From: Sophie Trist > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:37 PM > >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum > >>> > >>> Dave, I'm a little confused. I'm going into tenth grade, and I took > >>> a sex ed class in seventh grade. I found it to be very informative > >>> despite my blindness. I don't understand why we need a special > >>> curriculum for sex ed. > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com > >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>> Date sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:52:03 -0500 > >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum > >>> > >>> > >>> I have been asked to circulate the following: > >>> > >>> > >>> Dave > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear NFB Member, > >>> The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to > >>> help us with a current project. > >>> > >>> We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help us > >>> write a curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in the > > >>> area of sex education.  Currently no curriculum exists for students > >>> with low vision and blindness that reflect current education > >>> standards.  Young people, educators, and professionals have all > >>> indicated that there is a desperate need for such a curriculum. > >>> We want your voice to impact our work! > >>> Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found > >>> below: > >>> <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.su  > >>> rveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey > >>> > <https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=ht>>>  > tps://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey >  >>> > >>> > >>> Thank you for your time and consideration of this project! > >>> Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thank you, > >>> Mika Baugh > >>> National Federation of the Blind > >>> 200 East Wells Street > >>>     at Jernigan Place > >>> Baltimore, MD 21230 > >>> P: (410) 659 9314 ext. 2371 > >>> E: <mailto:mbaugh at nfb.org>mbaugh at nfb.org > >>> W: <http://www.nfb.org>www.nfb.org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >  >>> nabs-l mailing list > >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org  > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>> for nabs-l: > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sweetpeareade  > >>> r%40gmail.com > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >  >>> nabs-l mailing list > >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org  > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>> for > >>> nabs-l: > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40ea  > >>> rthlink.net > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >  >>> nabs-l mailing list > >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org  > >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info > >>> for > >>> nabs-l: > >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/ignasicambra%40g  > >>> mail.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >  >> nabs-l mailing list > >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org  > >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > >> nabs-l: > >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail  > >> .com > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >  > nabs-l mailing list > > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org  > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/turtlepower17%40gm  > > ail.com > > > >__________________________________ _____________ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailma n/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/n abs-l_nfbnet.org/zunaira.wasif%40dbs. >fldoe.org  > >_____________________________________________ __ >nabs-l mailing list >nabs-l at nfbnet.org >http://nfbnet.org/mailma n/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >nabs-l: >http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/n abs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/carlymih%40comcast.net </x-flowed>
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