[nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum

Mon Jul 16 20:50:53 UTC 2012

Dear all,
  Sometimes I think I should come back to this list and regularly
contribute...then I see the circus it so easily becomes.  What I'm
about to say, I mean with as much respect as possible, but, honestly,
how do you people have the time for this?  If we spent half the time
we do e-mailing looking for jobs, I bet that 70 percent unemployment
rate might be just a bit lower...something to think about?
  Best,
Kirt

On 7/16/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Carley,
> Can you refrain from using bad language. Others have already said its not a
> separate curriculum. Did you all who complain take the survey?
> I did not yet. But due to the visual stuff about it, it’s a good idea. We
> cannot se it in movies, in magazines, or making out in public. I think a
> book about it and the reproductive system woule be real helpful. I would
> love to see the  curriculum once developed.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carly Mihalakis
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 1:05 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>
> I know. How is it that people, due to a coincidental absence of  an
> ocular, input get off thinking themselves special that they require
> some  overly adapted curriculum or equipment for participating in one
> of life's building blocks? I mean, how 'bout a special blinkie
> toilet? This is how a blind man wipes his ass, see look, it's
> especially adapted for the sightless among us, it's made for the ass
> of a blind man, nobody else can use it. How is sex ed different than
> math or science or any thing else?  Most
>>subjects have a visual component.  Does that mean  that we need a
>>special curriculum for every thing?  You learn about sex in the same way
>>you learn about any other social interaction.  Like some other people on
>>the list, I don't understand why this can't be discussed openly on the
>>list.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of Desiree Oudinot
>>Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:07 PM
>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>>
>>Hi all,
>>I don't see why this discussion should be banned from the list. This is
>>just my opinion, and I don't mean to be rude, but it seems to me that
>>there is a lot of hesitation and outright disgust that's being talked
>>about here. And, let's be honest, how are we ever going to clear up
>>people's misconceptions if we don't talk about them?
>>I think it's probably easier for people to discuss these matters on a
>>list where they can be anonymous. Given the ages of some of the people
>>here, I can see why there would be some embarrassment involved if some
>>of you don't know what certain things are. I think it's probably
>>beneficial at this point to try and help each other out. It's a little
>>late for us to have better sex ed, so why not try to stop all this
>>nervous tittering about terminology? The terms Brandon used weren't
>>offensive. They were the anatomically correct terms. Plus, while I hink
>>the examples he uses are slightly exaggerated, that's not to say they
>>can never happen, and I think if we're going to have a discussion of
>>this nature, we need to be up front about it. We're all adults here, or
>>at least the age of consent.
>>I'm not talking about some of the religious convictions that certain
>>members have expressed. Those are personal, and if that's how you feel,
>>there's nothing wrong with that. But please take a step outside those
>>for a moment and think of how this discussion benefits others who are
>>reading. I'll bet there are some people who are sitting here reading
>>this, and have questions and concerns they would like to express, but
>>feel they can't for whatever reason. I implore you all not to ruin it
>>for those who really could use this information.
>>
>>On 7/12/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> > Don't take this the wrong way, but if any of you have anatomy
>> > questions, you can email me offlist at arielle71 at gmail.com Seriously,
>> > I did learn a lot about this stuff in my biology classes.
>> > Best,
>> > Arielle
>> >
>> > On 7/12/12, Ignasi Cambra <ignasicambra at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Ashley,
>> >> I believe you didn't know about any of these things because you
>> >> didn't inform yourself, not because you are blind...
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Ashley Bramlett
>> >> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Sophie,
>> >>> I, too, took a sex ed class and it was useful. But, we still lack
>> >>> knowledge usually. I don't think this replaces school education, it
>> >>> supplements it.
>> >>> Having nonvisual access such as a description, diagrams, or model
>> >>> would further aide in  our understanding of such a matter.
>> >>> Guys you may want to skip the next paragraph.
>> >>>
>> >>> For instance, My brother's wife just had a baby; having not seen or
>> >>> been explained what the birth process is, I don't have a clue what
>>its about.
>> >>> What are contractions? What is ambiotic fluid and what is its role
>> >>> in supporting the fetus? I still don't understand how a baby gets
>> >>> nurishment as its in the mother. I know from the mother's food, but
>> >>> just how I don't understand.
>> >>> They told me Steve, my brother, cut the umbilical cord.
>> >>> But where is that on the baby and mother? Kasey told me she started
>> >>> labour in the evening and went to the hospital; she did not have the
>>
>> >>> baby til next afternoon! I asked her how she managed it; wasn't she
>> >>> tired? She informed me she slept a little during the night. She told
>>
>> >>> me the baby's head came out first which was normal. I did not know
>> >>> this. I learned from her as I held my nephew that the head came out
>> >>> first and then the trunk and limbs. I learned that babies cried
>> >>> after they came out of the womb.
>> >>> I
>> >>> learned that infants needed to get milk very often. I am hoping
>> >>> Kasey will tell me more about her pregnancy and the beginnings of
>> >>> it, AKA, the sex part sometime.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think I'll take that survey that started this.
>> >>> Ashley
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Sophie Trist
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:37 PM
>> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>> >>>
>> >>> Dave, I'm a little confused. I'm going into tenth grade, and I took
>> >>> a sex ed class in seventh grade. I found it to be very informative
>> >>> despite my blindness. I don't understand why we need a special
>> >>> curriculum for sex ed.
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
>> >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> >>> Date sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:52:03 -0500
>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Sex Education Curriculum
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I have been asked to circulate the following:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Dave
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear NFB Member,
>> >>> The National Federation of the Blind has been gracious enough to
>> >>> help us with a current project.
>> >>>
>> >>> We are currently seeking your opinion in a survey that will help us
>> >>> write a curriculum for students with low vision and blindness in the
>>
>> >>> area of sex education.  Currently no curriculum exists for students
>> >>> with low vision and blindness that reflect current education
>> >>> standards.  Young people, educators, and professionals have all
>> >>> indicated that there is a desperate need for such a curriculum.
>> >>> We want your voice to impact our work!
>> >>> Please take the time to fill out the survey at the link found
>> >>> below:
>> >>> <https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey>https://www.su
>> >>> rveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
>> >>>
>> <https://maverick.hec.ohio-state.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=ht>>>
>> tps://www.surveymonkey.com/s/sexeducationsurvey
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for your time and consideration of this project!
>> >>> Tiffany Wild, Mollie Blackburn, Stacy Kelly, and Caitlin Ryan
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you,
>> >>> Mika Baugh
>> >>> National Federation of the Blind
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