[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Tue Jul 17 04:58:02 UTC 2012

Joshua,
Since clients have the right to leave as Amber is, I'd say they are 
attracted to the center. Yes rehab can send them there, if clients do not 
speak up and ask to attend another center. But they certainly do not have to 
stay there! If there really are crimes so near you hear gun shots, that 
doesn't sound safe and any sane person would fear for their safety.
So they must be attracted to some extent because people keep going and 
staying there.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:37 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Ashley, the issue isn't that WSB attracts clients!
The issue is, (in Arkansas, at least,) that Rehab sends people there,
if they don't say that they'd rather attend LCB, CCB, etc.
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/16/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Amber,
> Well, my goodness. I'd have to say first that I commend your efforts in
> sticking to the facts or trying to. I think you did a good job for someone
> who did not have a good experience.  I've also heard bad rumors about it.
> Second, with all this publicity, I'm real surprised that
> LWSB continues to stay open and attracting the clients it does.
> Which program were you in? Independent living? or a job program?
>
> About rules, personally signing in and out doesn't bother me. You are in a
> training setting and with this litigious society, they need to account for
> everyone. What if there was an emergency? They need to know where everyone
> is. People go missing everyday and are never found. Youwouldn't want your
> parents or friends or family calling and them saying, oh, we do not know
> where your son is;  he may be on campus or not.
> The other thing about the no microwave or fridge would bother me. As a
> college student, I enjoyed having my own fridge in my room.
> It gave me some freedom to have a cold drink or cold snack when I wanted 
> to.
> Since the cafeteria closed early at 7:30, this was definitely nice.
> That seems early to me given the fact that I eat late at home; between 7 
> and
> 8pm.
>
> Anyway, Amber you are making a good personal decision to leave. So I wish
> you luck in your next decision to find decent training or whatever you 
> need.
> I don't remember your intro to us, so I'm not sure if you are a current
> college student or recent grad.
> If you haven't finished school, I hope you can as it opens up more doors 
> to
> you.
>
> Ashley
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Herrin, Amber R.
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:36 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>
> Ian,
>
> I am currently at WSB, but am planning to leave on Friday.  Here is what I
> have experienced.  I will do my best to give only facts and not color 
> those
> facts with my opinion, though before I begin, I will clearly state that if
> you are asking for an opinion as to whether or not one should attend this
> program in order to obtain a job, I would have to say no.  But I am not 
> you
> or anyone else for that matter, and what I have experienced here has 
> colored
> my opinion, and may not be very reliable.
>
> The facts:
>
> *Several students (including myself) have had valuables go missing.
> *The food does not seem to meet health and safety codes. (just one
> example-there are many-one evening we had chicken wings, and though the
> outside was hot, the inside was not.  I would not mention this, except 
> this
> is not an isolated incident.)
> *The showers have light bulbs  (not protected by any kind of panels) 
> inside
> the actual stall where water could be accidentally splashed.  I brought 
> this
> up as a concern, so they put a cover over mine, but mine is not the only 
> one
> that this is the case with (as confirmed by other clients.)
> *Despite several complaints from many clients, the building is full of 
> bugs.
> They say that someone comes regularly to spray, but bugs were found even 
> in
> my room, and I am a very clean person. (read as, do not leave food in
> uncealed containers or dishes with food still on them etc.)
> *Clients are unable to have microwaves or refrigerators in their rooms, 
> and
> so are reduced to coolers full of ice or nothing at all except cafeteria
> food.  There are microwaves that physically exist, but they do not work 
> very
> well.
>
> Now I can say that there are other things I could talk about, but they
> probably come down to personal preference and really are just normal
> inconveniences that one would encounter on any college dorm, except they 
> are
> exaggerated because of the fact that everything is scaled down hugely.  So
> while, for example, on most college campuses, you could go to a dining 
> hall
> at almost any time of day, if you do not come to meals at the times
> specified, you don't eat meals.  I am sure that anyone can argue that when
> in school, you have to work with a particular schedule, and while this is
> true to some extent, I do take issue with the fact that we can't even have
> microwaves or refrigerators in our rooms so that we may maintain the
> schedules that are most comfortable for us.
>
> The last thing I mention is a large thing and may not affect anyone, but I
> feel I must mention it, because if I did not, I would be doing a great
> disservice to anyone considering attending this center.
>
> Two weeks ago this Friday, I was groped by an authority figure.  He was
> picking me up from the airport, and I was approaching the baggage claim 
> with
> a female passenger from my flight.  This authority figure approached me
> without announcing himself, put his arm around my waist, hugged me to
> himself in a tight, possessive manner, and told the female passenger who 
> had
> offered to walk with me that he "had it under control from there, but
> thanks."  After which, he looked down at me and said, "How was your trip,
> Punkin?  We've missed you!  We're so glad you're home!"
>
> This man did not announce himself to me in the beginning, should have been
> treating me professionally, is old enough to be my father, and possibly 
> even
> my grandfather, has only interacted with me minimally since my arrival at
> the center, I'm 24, etc etc etc.  Basically, it was wayyy wayyyy beyond 
> what
> one would call professional or even acceptable regardless of setting.
>
> I cannot tell you whether to attend this center; only you can decide that
> for yourself.  What I can tell you is that the man who did this to me was
> reported by me, and, I have discovered, has been reported multiple times 
> by
> other females that he has violated in one way or another, and still holds 
> a
> job here.  I believe there is something big going on here that I am 
> unaware
> of, and am only glad to be leaving.
>
> I have met some truly wonderful people here, but regardless of that, I 
> could
> never suggest that someone attend here.
>
> I hope this helps you make your decision.  If it does not, please know 
> that
> I wish you all the best.
>
> Amber R. Herrin
> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
> Impossible is not a word
> It's just a reason
> For someone not to try
>
> Everybody's scared to death
> When they decide to take that step
> Out on the water
> It'll be alright
>
> Life is so much more
> Than what your eyes are seeing
> You will find your way
> If you keep believing"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Anmol Bhatia
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:49 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>
> Ian,
> I have never attended LWSB as a trainny, but I used to go there on to stay
> during weekends in the 1990s. The only thing I can say is that LWSB has 
> made
> alot of changes last couple of years and I would think about visiting 
> there
> before deciding one way or the other. They do have an option to live off
> campus and as far as I am aware that there is not a sign in and sign out
> policy  after class time. Now they may have sign in and sign out policy
> during class time to keep count of attendance, however, this is know
> different signing in and signing out of work which everyone blind and
> sighted has to do.
> The IRS program is one of the best programs there and frankly since you 
> have
> to be excepted for a job at one of the IRS offices, it is a guarantied
> employment after completing the program and they start at 45,000 or more.
> The food was not the greatest, however, as I said above LWSB now known as
> World Services for the Blind has made alot of changes under the new 
> director
> and frankly I can not tell you how the food is now. As I said earlier, I
> would make a visit there before making any kind of decision.
>
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 4:14 PM
>> Hi
>> I’m wondering if any of you have attended LWSB for one of their
>> employment training programs, or LWSB in general?
>> I’m looking into one of the IRS programs, and was reading the manual,
>> and it seems like a very strict and structured environment, even
>> though most of the participants are adults. For instance, you have to
>> sign out if you want to go somewhere and things like that. Have any of
>> you attended LWSB? I’d love to hear what your experiences were. Since
>> I’ve been to college, it sounds like it’s not as independent of an
>> environment.
>> Ian
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