[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Tue Jul 17 23:53:42 UTC 2012

Are you an adult? Do you have the ability to make your own decisions? If so then that person can recruit you all they want, but it is your decision to wheather you want to join ACB or not. It is not World Services for the Blind then LWSB to stop their students from recruiting for the ACB or the NFB. Students who are member of the NFB have just as much of a right to recruit their fellow students as members who belong to the ACB.

Anmol
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
Hellen Keller

--- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:

> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:23 PM
> Anmol, they wouldn't stop Alan Ramos
> from the California Council from
> recruiting.
> That was the guy that tried to recruit me.
> Blessings, Joshua
> 
> On 7/17/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Thank you Dave for pointing out that the Little Rock
> chapter of the NFB
> > meets at World Services for the Blind. Josh, if
> according to you they try so
> > hard to recruit students to the ACB, then why do they
> allow the NFB meet in
> > their building and the local chapter of the ACB does
> not meet there?
> >
> > Anmol
> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
> make me sad. Perhaps
> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
> vague, like a breeze
> > among flowers.
> > Hellen Keller
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
> Training Programs
> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list"
> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 12:25 PM
> >> I'm going to attend LCB, after
> >> graduating from college.
> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >>
> >> On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hello Joshua and everyone,
> >> >
> >> >     Let' sleet her decide
> if she
> >> would benefit from a complete training
> >> > program or not. All three NFB centers have
> >> employment-related assistance and
> >> >
> >> > offer training in several specific areas. Have
> you been
> >> to an NFB center
> >> > yourself?
> >> >
> >> > Peter Donahue
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >> > To: "National Association of Blind Students
> mailing
> >> list"
> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:01 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> Employment
> >> Training Programs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > She has the skills to take care of herself.
> >> > She needs job training.
> >> > Is there an NFB sponsored ATI program?
> >> > Thanks, Joshua
> >> >
> >> > On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> Good morning everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >>     LWSB, formerly the
> Arkansas
> >> Enterprises for the Blind has had a long
> >> >> and
> >> >> checkered history concerning its treatment
> of the
> >> blind persons it claims
> >> >>
> >> >> to
> >> >> serve. The conditions you describe have
> existed
> >> there for many years. At
> >> >> one
> >> >> time it was accredited by the National
> >> Accreditation Council for Agencies
> >> >> Serving the Blind and Physically
> Handicapped (NAC.)
> >> Its former blind
> >> >> director was a key figure in NAC. NAC had
> a
> >> reputation for condoning
> >> >> practices that often led to blind persons
> being
> >> abused, mistreated, and
> >> >> in
> >> >> the case of sheltered workshops being paid
> less
> >> than the Federal minimum
> >> >> wage. NAC'S so-called "Standards of
> Accreditation"
> >> failed to address
> >> >> these
> >> >> issues. For example the standards called
> for the
> >> agency's grounds to be
> >> >> pleasant but did not require the
> sheltered
> >> workshops they accredited to
> >> >> pay
> >> >> all employees including the blind
> employees the
> >> Federal minimum wage.
> >> >>
> >> >>     In 1985 NAC held
> its annual
> >> meeting in Littlerock and the NFB was
> >> >> there
> >> >> to "Greet" them. Both the then Arkansas
> Enterprises
> >> for the Blind and the
> >> >> Arkansas School for the Blind were
> picketed by the
> >> NFB. While at AEB a
> >> >> number of AEB clients told us that there
> were
> >> problems and that it needed
> >> >>
> >> >> to
> >> >> be investigated. I know because Mary and I
> were on
> >> that picket line.
> >> >>
> >> >>     Judging from what
> I've read
> >> NAC for practical purposes is gone but
> >> >> vestiges of its evil doings remain at
> agencies such
> >> as LWSB. Amber here's
> >> >> hoping you will eventually attend an NFB
> training
> >> center. These centers
> >> >> are
> >> >> a big cut above anything else out there.
> All the
> >> best.
> >> >>
> >> >> Peter Donahue
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> >> >> To: "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing
> >> list"
> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:33 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> Employment
> >> Training Programs
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Amber,
> >> >> Well, my goodness. I'd have to say first
> that I
> >> commend your efforts in
> >> >> sticking to the facts or trying to. I
> think you did
> >> a good job for
> >> >> someone
> >> >> who did not have a good experience. 
> I've also
> >> heard bad rumors about it.
> >> >> Second, with all this publicity, I'm real
> surprised
> >> that
> >> >> LWSB continues to stay open and attracting
> the
> >> clients it does.
> >> >> Which program were you in? Independent
> living? or a
> >> job program?
> >> >>
> >> >> About rules, personally signing in and out
> doesn't
> >> bother me. You are in
> >> >> a
> >> >> training setting and with this litigious
> society,
> >> they need to account
> >> >> for
> >> >> everyone. What if there was an emergency?
> They need
> >> to know where
> >> >> everyone
> >> >> is. People go missing everyday and are
> never found.
> >> Youwouldn't want your
> >> >> parents or friends or family calling and
> them
> >> saying, oh, we do not know
> >> >> where your son is;  he may be on
> campus or
> >> not.
> >> >> The other thing about the no microwave or
> fridge
> >> would bother me. As a
> >> >> college student, I enjoyed having my own
> fridge in
> >> my room.
> >> >> It gave me some freedom to have a cold
> drink or
> >> cold snack when I wanted
> >> >> to.
> >> >> Since the cafeteria closed early at 7:30,
> this was
> >> definitely nice.
> >> >> That seems early to me given the fact that
> I eat
> >> late at home; between 7
> >> >> and
> >> >> 8pm.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway, Amber you are making a good
> personal
> >> decision to leave. So I wish
> >> >> you luck in your next decision to find
> decent
> >> training or whatever you
> >> >> need.
> >> >> I don't remember your intro to us, so I'm
> not sure
> >> if you are a current
> >> >> college student or recent grad.
> >> >> If you haven't finished school, I hope you
> can as
> >> it opens up more doors
> >> >> to
> >> >> you.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ashley
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Herrin, Amber R.
> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:36 PM
> >> >> To: 'National Association of Blind
> Students mailing
> >> list'
> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> Employment
> >> Training Programs
> >> >>
> >> >> Ian,
> >> >>
> >> >> I am currently at WSB, but am planning to
> leave on
> >> Friday.  Here is what
> >> >> I
> >> >> have experienced.  I will do my best
> to give
> >> only facts and not color
> >> >> those
> >> >> facts with my opinion, though before I
> begin, I
> >> will clearly state that
> >> >> if
> >> >> you are asking for an opinion as to
> whether or not
> >> one should attend this
> >> >> program in order to obtain a job, I would
> have to
> >> say no.  But I am not
> >> >> you
> >> >> or anyone else for that matter, and what I
> have
> >> experienced here has
> >> >> colored
> >> >> my opinion, and may not be very reliable.
> >> >>
> >> >> The facts:
> >> >>
> >> >> *Several students (including myself) have
> had
> >> valuables go missing.
> >> >> *The food does not seem to meet health and
> safety
> >> codes. (just one
> >> >> example-there are many-one evening we had
> chicken
> >> wings, and though the
> >> >> outside was hot, the inside was not. 
> I would
> >> not mention this, except
> >> >> this
> >> >> is not an isolated incident.)
> >> >> *The showers have light bulbs  (not
> protected
> >> by any kind of panels)
> >> >> inside
> >> >> the actual stall where water could be
> accidentally
> >> splashed.  I brought
> >> >> this
> >> >> up as a concern, so they put a cover over
> mine, but
> >> mine is not the only
> >> >> one
> >> >> that this is the case with (as confirmed
> by other
> >> clients.)
> >> >> *Despite several complaints from many
> clients, the
> >> building is full of
> >> >> bugs.
> >> >> They say that someone comes regularly to
> spray, but
> >> bugs were found even
> >> >> in
> >> >> my room, and I am a very clean person.
> (read as, do
> >> not leave food in
> >> >> uncealed containers or dishes with food
> still on
> >> them etc.)
> >> >> *Clients are unable to have microwaves or
> >> refrigerators in their rooms,
> >> >> and
> >> >> so are reduced to coolers full of ice or
> nothing at
> >> all except cafeteria
> >> >> food.  There are microwaves that
> physically
> >> exist, but they do not work
> >> >> very
> >> >> well.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now I can say that there are other things
> I could
> >> talk about, but they
> >> >> probably come down to personal preference
> and
> >> really are just normal
> >> >> inconveniences that one would encounter on
> any
> >> college dorm, except they
> >> >> are
> >> >> exaggerated because of the fact that
> everything is
> >> scaled down hugely.
> >> >> So
> >> >> while, for example, on most college
> campuses, you
> >> could go to a dining
> >> >> hall
> >> >> at almost any time of day, if you do not
> come to
> >> meals at the times
> >> >> specified, you don't eat meals.  I am
> sure
> >> that anyone can argue that
> >> >> when
> >> >> in school, you have to work with a
> particular
> >> schedule, and while this is
> >> >> true to some extent, I do take issue with
> the fact
> >> that we can't even
> >> >> have
> >> >> microwaves or refrigerators in our rooms
> so that we
> >> may maintain the
> >> >> schedules that are most comfortable for
> us.
> >> >>
> >> >> The last thing I mention is a large thing
> and may
> >> not affect anyone, but
> >> >> I
> >> >> feel I must mention it, because if I did
> not, I
> >> would be doing a great
> >> >> disservice to anyone considering attending
> this
> >> center.
> >> >>
> >> >> Two weeks ago this Friday, I was groped by
> an
> >> authority figure.  He was
> >> >> picking me up from the airport, and I was
> >> approaching the baggage claim
> >> >> with
> >> >> a female passenger from my flight. 
> This
> >> authority figure approached me
> >> >> without announcing himself, put his arm
> around my
> >> waist, hugged me to
> >> >> himself in a tight, possessive manner, and
> told the
> >> female passenger who
> >> >> had
> >> >> offered to walk with me that he "had it
> under
> >> control from there, but
> >> >> thanks."  After which, he looked down
> at me
> >> and said, "How was your trip,
> >> >> Punkin?  We've missed you! 
> We're so glad
> >> you're home!"
> >> >>
> >> >> This man did not announce himself to me in
> the
> >> beginning, should have
> >> >> been
> >> >> treating me professionally, is old enough
> to be my
> >> father, and possibly
> >> >> even
> >> >> my grandfather, has only interacted with
> me
> >> minimally since my arrival at
> >> >> the center, I'm 24, etc etc etc. 
> Basically,
> >> it was wayyy wayyyy beyond
> >> >> what
> >> >> one would call professional or even
> acceptable
> >> regardless of setting.
> >> >>
> >> >> I cannot tell you whether to attend this
> center;
> >> only you can decide that
> >> >> for yourself.  What I can tell you is
> that the
> >> man who did this to me was
> >> >> reported by me, and, I have discovered,
> has been
> >> reported multiple times
> >> >> by
> >> >> other females that he has violated in one
> way or
> >> another, and still holds
> >> >>
> >> >> a
> >> >> job here.  I believe there is
> something big
> >> going on here that I am
> >> >> unaware
> >> >> of, and am only glad to be leaving.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have met some truly wonderful people
> here, but
> >> regardless of that, I
> >> >> could
> >> >> never suggest that someone attend here.
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope this helps you make your
> decision.  If
> >> it does not, please know
> >> >> that
> >> >> I wish you all the best.
> >> >>
> >> >> Amber R. Herrin
> >> >> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
> >> >> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
> >> >> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
> >> >> Impossible is not a word
> >> >> It's just a reason
> >> >> For someone not to try
> >> >>
> >> >> Everybody's scared to death
> >> >> When they decide to take that step
> >> >> Out on the water
> >> >> It'll be alright
> >> >>
> >> >> Life is so much more
> >> >> Than what your eyes are seeing
> >> >> You will find your way
> >> >> If you keep believing"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> On
> >> >> Behalf
> >> >> Of Anmol Bhatia
> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:49 PM
> >> >> To: National Association of Blind Students
> mailing
> >> list
> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> Employment
> >> Training Programs
> >> >>
> >> >> Ian,
> >> >> I have never attended LWSB as a trainny,
> but I used
> >> to go there on to
> >> >> stay
> >> >> during weekends in the 1990s. The only
> thing I can
> >> say is that LWSB has
> >> >> made
> >> >> alot of changes last couple of years and I
> would
> >> think about visiting
> >> >> there
> >> >> before deciding one way or the other. They
> do have
> >> an option to live off
> >> >> campus and as far as I am aware that there
> is not a
> >> sign in and sign out
> >> >> policy  after class time. Now they
> may have
> >> sign in and sign out policy
> >> >> during class time to keep count of
> attendance,
> >> however, this is know
> >> >> different signing in and signing out of
> work which
> >> everyone blind and
> >> >> sighted has to do.
> >> >> The IRS program is one of the best
> programs there
> >> and frankly since you
> >> >> have
> >> >> to be excepted for a job at one of the IRS
> offices,
> >> it is a guarantied
> >> >> employment after completing the program
> and they
> >> start at 45,000 or more.
> >> >> The food was not the greatest, however, as
> I said
> >> above LWSB now known as
> >> >> World Services for the Blind has made alot
> of
> >> changes under the new
> >> >> director
> >> >> and frankly I can not tell you how the
> food is now.
> >> As I said earlier, I
> >> >> would make a visit there before making any
> kind of
> >> decision.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anmol
> >> >> I seldom think about my limitations, and
> they never
> >> make me sad. Perhaps
> >> >> there is just a touch of yearning at
> times; but it
> >> is vague, like a
> >> >> breeze
> >> >> among flowers.
> >> >> Hellen Keller
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> From: Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
> >> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> Employment
> >> Training Programs
> >> >>> To: "National Association of Blind
> Students"
> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >>> Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 4:14 PM
> >> >>> Hi
> >> >>> I’m wondering if any of you have
> attended
> >> LWSB for one of their
> >> >>> employment training programs, or LWSB
> in
> >> general?
> >> >>> I’m looking into one of the IRS
> programs, and
> >> was reading the manual,
> >> >>> and it seems like a very strict and
> structured
> >> environment, even
> >> >>> though most of the participants are
> adults. For
> >> instance, you have to
> >> >>> sign out if you want to go somewhere
> and things
> >> like that. Have any of
> >> >>> you attended LWSB? I’d love to hear
> what your
> >> experiences were. Since
> >> >>> I’ve been to college, it sounds like
> it’s
> >> not as independent of an
> >> >>> environment.
> >> >>> Ian
> >> >>>
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