[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Tue Jul 17 23:23:24 UTC 2012

Anmol, they wouldn't stop Alan Ramos from the California Council from
recruiting.
That was the guy that tried to recruit me.
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/17/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thank you Dave for pointing out that the Little Rock chapter of the NFB
> meets at World Services for the Blind. Josh, if according to you they try so
> hard to recruit students to the ACB, then why do they allow the NFB meet in
> their building and the local chapter of the ACB does not meet there?
>
> Anmol
> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze
> among flowers.
> Hellen Keller
>
>
> --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>
>> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 12:25 PM
>> I'm going to attend LCB, after
>> graduating from college.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello Joshua and everyone,
>> >
>> >     Let' sleet her decide if she
>> would benefit from a complete training
>> > program or not. All three NFB centers have
>> employment-related assistance and
>> >
>> > offer training in several specific areas. Have you been
>> to an NFB center
>> > yourself?
>> >
>> > Peter Donahue
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list"
>> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:01 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>> Training Programs
>> >
>> >
>> > She has the skills to take care of herself.
>> > She needs job training.
>> > Is there an NFB sponsored ATI program?
>> > Thanks, Joshua
>> >
>> > On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Good morning everyone,
>> >>
>> >>     LWSB, formerly the Arkansas
>> Enterprises for the Blind has had a long
>> >> and
>> >> checkered history concerning its treatment of the
>> blind persons it claims
>> >>
>> >> to
>> >> serve. The conditions you describe have existed
>> there for many years. At
>> >> one
>> >> time it was accredited by the National
>> Accreditation Council for Agencies
>> >> Serving the Blind and Physically Handicapped (NAC.)
>> Its former blind
>> >> director was a key figure in NAC. NAC had a
>> reputation for condoning
>> >> practices that often led to blind persons being
>> abused, mistreated, and
>> >> in
>> >> the case of sheltered workshops being paid less
>> than the Federal minimum
>> >> wage. NAC'S so-called "Standards of Accreditation"
>> failed to address
>> >> these
>> >> issues. For example the standards called for the
>> agency's grounds to be
>> >> pleasant but did not require the sheltered
>> workshops they accredited to
>> >> pay
>> >> all employees including the blind employees the
>> Federal minimum wage.
>> >>
>> >>     In 1985 NAC held its annual
>> meeting in Littlerock and the NFB was
>> >> there
>> >> to "Greet" them. Both the then Arkansas Enterprises
>> for the Blind and the
>> >> Arkansas School for the Blind were picketed by the
>> NFB. While at AEB a
>> >> number of AEB clients told us that there were
>> problems and that it needed
>> >>
>> >> to
>> >> be investigated. I know because Mary and I were on
>> that picket line.
>> >>
>> >>     Judging from what I've read
>> NAC for practical purposes is gone but
>> >> vestiges of its evil doings remain at agencies such
>> as LWSB. Amber here's
>> >> hoping you will eventually attend an NFB training
>> center. These centers
>> >> are
>> >> a big cut above anything else out there. All the
>> best.
>> >>
>> >> Peter Donahue
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list"
>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:33 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>> Training Programs
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Amber,
>> >> Well, my goodness. I'd have to say first that I
>> commend your efforts in
>> >> sticking to the facts or trying to. I think you did
>> a good job for
>> >> someone
>> >> who did not have a good experience.  I've also
>> heard bad rumors about it.
>> >> Second, with all this publicity, I'm real surprised
>> that
>> >> LWSB continues to stay open and attracting the
>> clients it does.
>> >> Which program were you in? Independent living? or a
>> job program?
>> >>
>> >> About rules, personally signing in and out doesn't
>> bother me. You are in
>> >> a
>> >> training setting and with this litigious society,
>> they need to account
>> >> for
>> >> everyone. What if there was an emergency? They need
>> to know where
>> >> everyone
>> >> is. People go missing everyday and are never found.
>> Youwouldn't want your
>> >> parents or friends or family calling and them
>> saying, oh, we do not know
>> >> where your son is;  he may be on campus or
>> not.
>> >> The other thing about the no microwave or fridge
>> would bother me. As a
>> >> college student, I enjoyed having my own fridge in
>> my room.
>> >> It gave me some freedom to have a cold drink or
>> cold snack when I wanted
>> >> to.
>> >> Since the cafeteria closed early at 7:30, this was
>> definitely nice.
>> >> That seems early to me given the fact that I eat
>> late at home; between 7
>> >> and
>> >> 8pm.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, Amber you are making a good personal
>> decision to leave. So I wish
>> >> you luck in your next decision to find decent
>> training or whatever you
>> >> need.
>> >> I don't remember your intro to us, so I'm not sure
>> if you are a current
>> >> college student or recent grad.
>> >> If you haven't finished school, I hope you can as
>> it opens up more doors
>> >> to
>> >> you.
>> >>
>> >> Ashley
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Herrin, Amber R.
>> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:36 PM
>> >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list'
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>> Training Programs
>> >>
>> >> Ian,
>> >>
>> >> I am currently at WSB, but am planning to leave on
>> Friday.  Here is what
>> >> I
>> >> have experienced.  I will do my best to give
>> only facts and not color
>> >> those
>> >> facts with my opinion, though before I begin, I
>> will clearly state that
>> >> if
>> >> you are asking for an opinion as to whether or not
>> one should attend this
>> >> program in order to obtain a job, I would have to
>> say no.  But I am not
>> >> you
>> >> or anyone else for that matter, and what I have
>> experienced here has
>> >> colored
>> >> my opinion, and may not be very reliable.
>> >>
>> >> The facts:
>> >>
>> >> *Several students (including myself) have had
>> valuables go missing.
>> >> *The food does not seem to meet health and safety
>> codes. (just one
>> >> example-there are many-one evening we had chicken
>> wings, and though the
>> >> outside was hot, the inside was not.  I would
>> not mention this, except
>> >> this
>> >> is not an isolated incident.)
>> >> *The showers have light bulbs  (not protected
>> by any kind of panels)
>> >> inside
>> >> the actual stall where water could be accidentally
>> splashed.  I brought
>> >> this
>> >> up as a concern, so they put a cover over mine, but
>> mine is not the only
>> >> one
>> >> that this is the case with (as confirmed by other
>> clients.)
>> >> *Despite several complaints from many clients, the
>> building is full of
>> >> bugs.
>> >> They say that someone comes regularly to spray, but
>> bugs were found even
>> >> in
>> >> my room, and I am a very clean person. (read as, do
>> not leave food in
>> >> uncealed containers or dishes with food still on
>> them etc.)
>> >> *Clients are unable to have microwaves or
>> refrigerators in their rooms,
>> >> and
>> >> so are reduced to coolers full of ice or nothing at
>> all except cafeteria
>> >> food.  There are microwaves that physically
>> exist, but they do not work
>> >> very
>> >> well.
>> >>
>> >> Now I can say that there are other things I could
>> talk about, but they
>> >> probably come down to personal preference and
>> really are just normal
>> >> inconveniences that one would encounter on any
>> college dorm, except they
>> >> are
>> >> exaggerated because of the fact that everything is
>> scaled down hugely.
>> >> So
>> >> while, for example, on most college campuses, you
>> could go to a dining
>> >> hall
>> >> at almost any time of day, if you do not come to
>> meals at the times
>> >> specified, you don't eat meals.  I am sure
>> that anyone can argue that
>> >> when
>> >> in school, you have to work with a particular
>> schedule, and while this is
>> >> true to some extent, I do take issue with the fact
>> that we can't even
>> >> have
>> >> microwaves or refrigerators in our rooms so that we
>> may maintain the
>> >> schedules that are most comfortable for us.
>> >>
>> >> The last thing I mention is a large thing and may
>> not affect anyone, but
>> >> I
>> >> feel I must mention it, because if I did not, I
>> would be doing a great
>> >> disservice to anyone considering attending this
>> center.
>> >>
>> >> Two weeks ago this Friday, I was groped by an
>> authority figure.  He was
>> >> picking me up from the airport, and I was
>> approaching the baggage claim
>> >> with
>> >> a female passenger from my flight.  This
>> authority figure approached me
>> >> without announcing himself, put his arm around my
>> waist, hugged me to
>> >> himself in a tight, possessive manner, and told the
>> female passenger who
>> >> had
>> >> offered to walk with me that he "had it under
>> control from there, but
>> >> thanks."  After which, he looked down at me
>> and said, "How was your trip,
>> >> Punkin?  We've missed you!  We're so glad
>> you're home!"
>> >>
>> >> This man did not announce himself to me in the
>> beginning, should have
>> >> been
>> >> treating me professionally, is old enough to be my
>> father, and possibly
>> >> even
>> >> my grandfather, has only interacted with me
>> minimally since my arrival at
>> >> the center, I'm 24, etc etc etc.  Basically,
>> it was wayyy wayyyy beyond
>> >> what
>> >> one would call professional or even acceptable
>> regardless of setting.
>> >>
>> >> I cannot tell you whether to attend this center;
>> only you can decide that
>> >> for yourself.  What I can tell you is that the
>> man who did this to me was
>> >> reported by me, and, I have discovered, has been
>> reported multiple times
>> >> by
>> >> other females that he has violated in one way or
>> another, and still holds
>> >>
>> >> a
>> >> job here.  I believe there is something big
>> going on here that I am
>> >> unaware
>> >> of, and am only glad to be leaving.
>> >>
>> >> I have met some truly wonderful people here, but
>> regardless of that, I
>> >> could
>> >> never suggest that someone attend here.
>> >>
>> >> I hope this helps you make your decision.  If
>> it does not, please know
>> >> that
>> >> I wish you all the best.
>> >>
>> >> Amber R. Herrin
>> >> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
>> >> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
>> >> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
>> >> Impossible is not a word
>> >> It's just a reason
>> >> For someone not to try
>> >>
>> >> Everybody's scared to death
>> >> When they decide to take that step
>> >> Out on the water
>> >> It'll be alright
>> >>
>> >> Life is so much more
>> >> Than what your eyes are seeing
>> >> You will find your way
>> >> If you keep believing"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> Of Anmol Bhatia
>> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:49 PM
>> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>> Training Programs
>> >>
>> >> Ian,
>> >> I have never attended LWSB as a trainny, but I used
>> to go there on to
>> >> stay
>> >> during weekends in the 1990s. The only thing I can
>> say is that LWSB has
>> >> made
>> >> alot of changes last couple of years and I would
>> think about visiting
>> >> there
>> >> before deciding one way or the other. They do have
>> an option to live off
>> >> campus and as far as I am aware that there is not a
>> sign in and sign out
>> >> policy  after class time. Now they may have
>> sign in and sign out policy
>> >> during class time to keep count of attendance,
>> however, this is know
>> >> different signing in and signing out of work which
>> everyone blind and
>> >> sighted has to do.
>> >> The IRS program is one of the best programs there
>> and frankly since you
>> >> have
>> >> to be excepted for a job at one of the IRS offices,
>> it is a guarantied
>> >> employment after completing the program and they
>> start at 45,000 or more.
>> >> The food was not the greatest, however, as I said
>> above LWSB now known as
>> >> World Services for the Blind has made alot of
>> changes under the new
>> >> director
>> >> and frankly I can not tell you how the food is now.
>> As I said earlier, I
>> >> would make a visit there before making any kind of
>> decision.
>> >>
>> >> Anmol
>> >> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>> make me sad. Perhaps
>> >> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it
>> is vague, like a
>> >> breeze
>> >> among flowers.
>> >> Hellen Keller
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> From: Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>> Training Programs
>> >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 4:14 PM
>> >>> Hi
>> >>> I’m wondering if any of you have attended
>> LWSB for one of their
>> >>> employment training programs, or LWSB in
>> general?
>> >>> I’m looking into one of the IRS programs, and
>> was reading the manual,
>> >>> and it seems like a very strict and structured
>> environment, even
>> >>> though most of the participants are adults. For
>> instance, you have to
>> >>> sign out if you want to go somewhere and things
>> like that. Have any of
>> >>> you attended LWSB? I’d love to hear what your
>> experiences were. Since
>> >>> I’ve been to college, it sounds like it’s
>> not as independent of an
>> >>> environment.
>> >>> Ian
>> >>>
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