[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Wed Jul 18 01:49:47 UTC 2012

Hi,

I would just like to say, as has been stated briefly already, that the
consumers have the right to attend any training center of their choice,
provided that they can provide information on why that center is the best
fit for their needs.

Informed choice has made it possible for clients to decide based on their
needs, not based on what the state thinks is best monetarily.

It is a necessary step, of course, because the state does have to account
for money spent, but I know someone who is from Florida and is attending
BLIND Inc. now.  She had a long drawn-out interaction with the state,
wherein she had to prove that this was best for her, but certainly once
precedent is set, and assuming that the client truly feels that an NFB
center would best meet their needs, I would find it hard to believe that the
state wouldn't have to send them eventually.

I don't say this to sound disrespectful.  I just hate to see misinformation
out there, in case someone from florida on this list is seriously
considering attending an NFB center.  If so, he or she would have been
greatly discouraged by your message, and, knowing someone personally who
made it happen with determination and solid commitment, I couldn't stay
quiet.

Best,

Amber R. Herrin
ATI Student in Training 2012
World Services for the Blind
Mobile: (513) 593-5855
E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
2811 Fair Park Boulevard
Little Rock, AR 72204
"It doesn't matter what you've heard
Impossible is not a word
It's just a reason
For someone not to try

Everybody's scared to death
When they decide to take that step
Out on the water
It'll be alright

Life is so much more
Than what your eyes are seeing
You will find your way
If you keep believing"

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Wasif, Zunaira
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:02 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

I work in state rehab in Florida and we won't send anyone out of state for
training.  They have to attend local centers because the state doesn't want
to pay for out of state training, unfortunately. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Joshua Lester
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:08 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

The good thing is, that people know more now, than they knew then!
Thanks to these lists, all you need is a Google search!
More people know what's going on, so they can speak up!
Had I known about the LCB, long ago I would have spoken up!
I'm glad I didn't stay there!
My only problem, is that she's staying until Friday!
If I were her, i'd take Megabus back to Ohio, and leave today!
This is horible!
She shouldn't have to endure 3 more days of this mess!
JMHO!
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/16/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Joshua,
> Since clients have the right to leave as Amber is, I'd say they are 
> attracted to the center. Yes rehab can send them there, if clients do 
> not speak up and ask to attend another center. But they certainly do 
> not have to
>
> stay there! If there really are crimes so near you hear gun shots, 
> that doesn't sound safe and any sane person would fear for their
safety.
> So they must be attracted to some extent because people keep going and

> staying there.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:37 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>
> Ashley, the issue isn't that WSB attracts clients!
> The issue is, (in Arkansas, at least,) that Rehab sends people there, 
> if they don't say that they'd rather attend LCB, CCB, etc.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 7/16/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Amber,
>> Well, my goodness. I'd have to say first that I commend your efforts 
>> in sticking to the facts or trying to. I think you did a good job for

>> someone who did not have a good experience.  I've also heard bad 
>> rumors about it.
>> Second, with all this publicity, I'm real surprised that LWSB 
>> continues to stay open and attracting the clients it does.
>> Which program were you in? Independent living? or a job program?
>>
>> About rules, personally signing in and out doesn't bother me. You are

>> in a training setting and with this litigious society, they need to 
>> account for everyone. What if there was an emergency? They need to 
>> know where everyone is. People go missing everyday and are never 
>> found. Youwouldn't want your parents or friends or family calling and

>> them saying, oh, we do not know where your son is;  he may be on 
>> campus or not.
>> The other thing about the no microwave or fridge would bother me. As 
>> a college student, I enjoyed having my own fridge in my room.
>> It gave me some freedom to have a cold drink or cold snack when I 
>> wanted to.
>> Since the cafeteria closed early at 7:30, this was definitely nice.
>> That seems early to me given the fact that I eat late at home; 
>> between 7 and 8pm.
>>
>> Anyway, Amber you are making a good personal decision to leave. So I 
>> wish you luck in your next decision to find decent training or 
>> whatever you need.
>> I don't remember your intro to us, so I'm not sure if you are a 
>> current college student or recent grad.
>> If you haven't finished school, I hope you can as it opens up more 
>> doors to you.
>>
>> Ashley
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Herrin, Amber R.
>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:36 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> I am currently at WSB, but am planning to leave on Friday.  Here is 
>> what I have experienced.  I will do my best to give only facts and 
>> not color those facts with my opinion, though before I begin, I will 
>> clearly state that if you are asking for an opinion as to whether or 
>> not one should attend this program in order to obtain a job, I would 
>> have to say no.  But I am not you or anyone else for that matter, and

>> what I have experienced here has colored my opinion, and may not be 
>> very reliable.
>>
>> The facts:
>>
>> *Several students (including myself) have had valuables go missing.
>> *The food does not seem to meet health and safety codes. (just one 
>> example-there are many-one evening we had chicken wings, and though 
>> the outside was hot, the inside was not.  I would not mention this, 
>> except this is not an isolated incident.) *The showers have light 
>> bulbs  (not protected by any kind of panels) inside the actual stall 
>> where water could be accidentally splashed.  I brought this up as a 
>> concern, so they put a cover over mine, but mine is not the only one 
>> that this is the case with (as confirmed by other clients.) *Despite 
>> several complaints from many clients, the building is full of bugs.
>> They say that someone comes regularly to spray, but bugs were found 
>> even in my room, and I am a very clean person. (read as, do not leave

>> food in uncealed containers or dishes with food still on them etc.) 
>> *Clients are unable to have microwaves or refrigerators in their 
>> rooms, and so are reduced to coolers full of ice or nothing at all 
>> except cafeteria food.  There are microwaves that physically exist, 
>> but they do not work very well.
>>
>> Now I can say that there are other things I could talk about, but 
>> they probably come down to personal preference and really are just 
>> normal inconveniences that one would encounter on any college dorm, 
>> except they are exaggerated because of the fact that everything is 
>> scaled down hugely.
>> So
>> while, for example, on most college campuses, you could go to a 
>> dining hall at almost any time of day, if you do not come to meals at

>> the times specified, you don't eat meals.  I am sure that anyone can 
>> argue that when in school, you have to work with a particular 
>> schedule, and while this is true to some extent, I do take issue with

>> the fact that we can't even have microwaves or refrigerators in our 
>> rooms so that we may maintain the schedules that are most comfortable

>> for us.
>>
>> The last thing I mention is a large thing and may not affect anyone, 
>> but I feel I must mention it, because if I did not, I would be doing 
>> a great disservice to anyone considering attending this center.
>>
>> Two weeks ago this Friday, I was groped by an authority figure.  He 
>> was picking me up from the airport, and I was approaching the baggage

>> claim with a female passenger from my flight.  This authority figure 
>> approached me without announcing himself, put his arm around my 
>> waist, hugged me to himself in a tight, possessive manner, and told 
>> the female passenger who had offered to walk with me that he "had it 
>> under control from there, but thanks."  After which, he looked down 
>> at me and said, "How was your trip, Punkin?  We've missed you!  We're

>> so glad you're home!"
>>
>> This man did not announce himself to me in the beginning, should have

>> been treating me professionally, is old enough to be my father, and 
>> possibly even my grandfather, has only interacted with me minimally 
>> since my arrival at the center, I'm 24, etc etc etc.  Basically, it 
>> was wayyy wayyyy beyond what one would call professional or even 
>> acceptable regardless of setting.
>>
>> I cannot tell you whether to attend this center; only you can decide 
>> that for yourself.  What I can tell you is that the man who did this 
>> to me was reported by me, and, I have discovered, has been reported 
>> multiple times by other females that he has violated in one way or 
>> another, and still holds
>>
>> a
>> job here.  I believe there is something big going on here that I am 
>> unaware of, and am only glad to be leaving.
>>
>> I have met some truly wonderful people here, but regardless of that, 
>> I could never suggest that someone attend here.
>>
>> I hope this helps you make your decision.  If it does not, please 
>> know that I wish you all the best.
>>
>> Amber R. Herrin
>> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
>> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
>> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
>> Impossible is not a word
>> It's just a reason
>> For someone not to try
>>
>> Everybody's scared to death
>> When they decide to take that step
>> Out on the water
>> It'll be alright
>>
>> Life is so much more
>> Than what your eyes are seeing
>> You will find your way
>> If you keep believing"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On

>> Behalf Of Anmol Bhatia
>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:49 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>>
>> Ian,
>> I have never attended LWSB as a trainny, but I used to go there on to

>> stay during weekends in the 1990s. The only thing I can say is that 
>> LWSB has made alot of changes last couple of years and I would think 
>> about visiting there before deciding one way or the other. They do 
>> have an option to live off campus and as far as I am aware that there

>> is not a sign in and sign out policy  after class time. Now they may 
>> have sign in and sign out policy during class time to keep count of 
>> attendance, however, this is know different signing in and signing 
>> out of work which everyone blind and sighted has to do.
>> The IRS program is one of the best programs there and frankly since 
>> you have to be excepted for a job at one of the IRS offices, it is a 
>> guarantied employment after completing the program and they start at
>> 45,000 or more.
>> The food was not the greatest, however, as I said above LWSB now 
>> known as World Services for the Blind has made alot of changes under 
>> the new director and frankly I can not tell you how the food is now.
>> As I said earlier, I would make a visit there before making any kind 
>> of decision.
>>
>> Anmol
>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. 
>> Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, 
>> like a breeze among flowers.
>> Hellen Keller
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 4:14 PM Hi I'm wondering if any of you 
>>> have attended LWSB for one of their employment training programs, or

>>> LWSB in general?
>>> I'm looking into one of the IRS programs, and was reading the 
>>> manual, and it seems like a very strict and structured environment, 
>>> even though most of the participants are adults. For instance, you 
>>> have to sign out if you want to go somewhere and things like that.
>>> Have any of you attended LWSB? I'd love to hear what your 
>>> experiences were. Since I've been to college, it sounds like it's 
>>> not as independent of an environment.
>>> Ian
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