[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

[Joshua Lester]

I agree.
These senters should also have the NFB philosophy.
Blessings, Joshua

On 7/17/12, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> As I see it, the job training at this center is probably its only
> strong point. You have to remember, though, that most people are going
> to live on campus unless they have family or friends in Arkansas that
> they can stay with, so they can commute every day. If not, what are
> they going to do, find an apartment, only to vacate it in 6 months? I
> don't think so, it doesn't work that way. flexible leases aren't that
> easy to come by. So honestly, its a shame that the center is as badly
> run as it is. I considered going there myself for the computer
> networking certification, but changed my mind after hearing stories
> very similar to the opinions that have been expressed here. As I said,
> it's definitely a shame that this is the only center that has such a
> good track record with placing the blind in profitable employment.
> Other centers should exist for this purpose as well. For one place to
> carry all the load is a little unfair. Considering how high the
> unemployment rate for the blind is, imagine how much farther along we
> would get if even several states had a center of this nature.
>
> On 7/17/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Anmol,
>> excellent post. WSB does have a good IRS program. Also, the entrance
>> requirements were on the website and I hope they still are.
>> You have to have good technology skills as well as decent educational
>> skills
>> to get in. Since you will work for the government, they require you to be
>> a
>> US citizen, able to  pass a drug test, and be willing to relocate. They
>> also
>> find you a job after your training. I was at a job fair and know who I
>> ran
>> into?
>> An IRS rep! He said if I wanted to get a job into that agency, going to
>> WSB
>> was a good idea. He said they get students from there all the time and
>> that
>> the next class containing 30 students was starting soon.
>>
>> If you're thinking of going, you have to weigh the pros and cons. Also, I
>> can definitely see why rehab would send clients there; they gaurantee a
>> job
>> afterward. As Anmol said, this is appealing because more successful case
>> closures mean they keep the funding they have.
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anmol Bhatia
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:10 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>>
>> Know Arielle I suspect WSB as a whole does not belong to any
>> organization.
>> They try to remain neutral and WSB actually had a table at the exhabit
>> hall
>> at the NFB convention. I am not a big fan of WSB to the extend that some
>> on
>> this list might think I am, however, I do not like reading some of the
>> comments I read on here from people who do not necessarly know all the
>> facts.
>> The things Amber has mentioned are valid and credible because she is
>> there
>> now. If I were considering attending WSB, I would seriously take into
>> consideration the things she mentioned. However, WSB does have an
>> employment
>> track and it is easier for Rehab Counselors to send clients to a training
>> center which can lead to employment like the WSB rather than an
>> independent
>> living training center like the NFB training centers that do a good job
>> in
>> providing independent living training, but do not lead to employment. I
>> personally understand the value of how independent living training is
>> important in being successful in employment and most rehab counselors do
>> as
>> well, but we have to justify how we are spending the tax payer money to
>> largely ignorent sighted society who do not necessarly see the value of
>> independent training for a blind person.
>> To answer the question, the IRS is a promising job that pays the starting
>> salarry of $45,000 I think with growth opportunity. So you have to decide
>> if
>> you want to put up with some of the things mentioned: bad food, unclean
>> building, ect for 6 to 9 months and have a good job after that.
>> Anmol
>> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps
>> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
>> breeze
>> among flowers.
>> Hellen Keller
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:22 PM
>>> I suspect that certain students or
>>> staff at WSB are ACB members and
>>> try to recruit, but that the WSB itself doesn't have a
>>> particular
>>> organizational position.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 7/17/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Thank you Dave for pointing out that the Little Rock
>>> chapter of the NFB
>>> > meets at World Services for the Blind. Josh, if
>>> according to you they try so
>>> > hard to recruit students to the ACB, then why do they
>>> allow the NFB meet in
>>> > their building and the local chapter of the ACB does
>>> not meet there?
>>> >
>>> > Anmol
>>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
>>> make me sad. Perhaps
>>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
>>> vague, like a breeze
>>> > among flowers.
>>> > Hellen Keller
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
>>> Training Programs
>>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list"
>>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 12:25 PM
>>> >> I'm going to attend LCB, after
>>> >> graduating from college.
>>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>>> >>
>>> >> On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Hello Joshua and everyone,
>>> >> >
>>> >> >     Let' sleet her decide if she
>>> >> would benefit from a complete training
>>> >> > program or not. All three NFB centers have
>>> >> employment-related assistance and
>>> >> >
>>> >> > offer training in several specific areas. Have
>>> you been
>>> >> to an NFB center
>>> >> > yourself?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Peter Donahue
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> >> > To: "National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing
>>> >> list"
>>> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:01 AM
>>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> Employment
>>> >> Training Programs
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > She has the skills to take care of herself.
>>> >> > She needs job training.
>>> >> > Is there an NFB sponsored ATI program?
>>> >> > Thanks, Joshua
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> Good morning everyone,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>     LWSB, formerly the Arkansas
>>> >> Enterprises for the Blind has had a long
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> checkered history concerning its treatment
>>> of the
>>> >> blind persons it claims
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> serve. The conditions you describe have
>>> existed
>>> >> there for many years. At
>>> >> >> one
>>> >> >> time it was accredited by the National
>>> >> Accreditation Council for Agencies
>>> >> >> Serving the Blind and Physically
>>> Handicapped (NAC.)
>>> >> Its former blind
>>> >> >> director was a key figure in NAC. NAC had
>>> a
>>> >> reputation for condoning
>>> >> >> practices that often led to blind persons
>>> being
>>> >> abused, mistreated, and
>>> >> >> in
>>> >> >> the case of sheltered workshops being paid
>>> less
>>> >> than the Federal minimum
>>> >> >> wage. NAC'S so-called "Standards of
>>> Accreditation"
>>> >> failed to address
>>> >> >> these
>>> >> >> issues. For example the standards called
>>> for the
>>> >> agency's grounds to be
>>> >> >> pleasant but did not require the
>>> sheltered
>>> >> workshops they accredited to
>>> >> >> pay
>>> >> >> all employees including the blind
>>> employees the
>>> >> Federal minimum wage.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>     In 1985 NAC held its annual
>>> >> meeting in Littlerock and the NFB was
>>> >> >> there
>>> >> >> to "Greet" them. Both the then Arkansas
>>> Enterprises
>>> >> for the Blind and the
>>> >> >> Arkansas School for the Blind were
>>> picketed by the
>>> >> NFB. While at AEB a
>>> >> >> number of AEB clients told us that there
>>> were
>>> >> problems and that it needed
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> be investigated. I know because Mary and I
>>> were on
>>> >> that picket line.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>     Judging from what I've read
>>> >> NAC for practical purposes is gone but
>>> >> >> vestiges of its evil doings remain at
>>> agencies such
>>> >> as LWSB. Amber here's
>>> >> >> hoping you will eventually attend an NFB
>>> training
>>> >> center. These centers
>>> >> >> are
>>> >> >> a big cut above anything else out there.
>>> All the
>>> >> best.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Peter Donahue
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> >> >> To: "National Association of Blind
>>> Students mailing
>>> >> list"
>>> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:33 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> Employment
>>> >> Training Programs
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Amber,
>>> >> >> Well, my goodness. I'd have to say first
>>> that I
>>> >> commend your efforts in
>>> >> >> sticking to the facts or trying to. I
>>> think you did
>>> >> a good job for
>>> >> >> someone
>>> >> >> who did not have a good experience.  I've
>>> also
>>> >> heard bad rumors about it.
>>> >> >> Second, with all this publicity, I'm real
>>> surprised
>>> >> that
>>> >> >> LWSB continues to stay open and attracting
>>> the
>>> >> clients it does.
>>> >> >> Which program were you in? Independent
>>> living? or a
>>> >> job program?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> About rules, personally signing in and out
>>> doesn't
>>> >> bother me. You are in
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> training setting and with this litigious
>>> society,
>>> >> they need to account
>>> >> >> for
>>> >> >> everyone. What if there was an emergency?
>>> They need
>>> >> to know where
>>> >> >> everyone
>>> >> >> is. People go missing everyday and are
>>> never found.
>>> >> Youwouldn't want your
>>> >> >> parents or friends or family calling and
>>> them
>>> >> saying, oh, we do not know
>>> >> >> where your son is;  he may be on campus
>>> or
>>> >> not.
>>> >> >> The other thing about the no microwave or
>>> fridge
>>> >> would bother me. As a
>>> >> >> college student, I enjoyed having my own
>>> fridge in
>>> >> my room.
>>> >> >> It gave me some freedom to have a cold
>>> drink or
>>> >> cold snack when I wanted
>>> >> >> to.
>>> >> >> Since the cafeteria closed early at 7:30,
>>> this was
>>> >> definitely nice.
>>> >> >> That seems early to me given the fact that
>>> I eat
>>> >> late at home; between 7
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> 8pm.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Anyway, Amber you are making a good
>>> personal
>>> >> decision to leave. So I wish
>>> >> >> you luck in your next decision to find
>>> decent
>>> >> training or whatever you
>>> >> >> need.
>>> >> >> I don't remember your intro to us, so I'm
>>> not sure
>>> >> if you are a current
>>> >> >> college student or recent grad.
>>> >> >> If you haven't finished school, I hope you
>>> can as
>>> >> it opens up more doors
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> you.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Ashley
>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> From: Herrin, Amber R.
>>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:36 PM
>>> >> >> To: 'National Association of Blind
>>> Students mailing
>>> >> list'
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> Employment
>>> >> Training Programs
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Ian,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I am currently at WSB, but am planning to
>>> leave on
>>> >> Friday.  Here is what
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> have experienced.  I will do my best to
>>> give
>>> >> only facts and not color
>>> >> >> those
>>> >> >> facts with my opinion, though before I
>>> begin, I
>>> >> will clearly state that
>>> >> >> if
>>> >> >> you are asking for an opinion as to
>>> whether or not
>>> >> one should attend this
>>> >> >> program in order to obtain a job, I would
>>> have to
>>> >> say no.  But I am not
>>> >> >> you
>>> >> >> or anyone else for that matter, and what I
>>> have
>>> >> experienced here has
>>> >> >> colored
>>> >> >> my opinion, and may not be very reliable.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The facts:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> *Several students (including myself) have
>>> had
>>> >> valuables go missing.
>>> >> >> *The food does not seem to meet health and
>>> safety
>>> >> codes. (just one
>>> >> >> example-there are many-one evening we had
>>> chicken
>>> >> wings, and though the
>>> >> >> outside was hot, the inside was not.  I
>>> would
>>> >> not mention this, except
>>> >> >> this
>>> >> >> is not an isolated incident.)
>>> >> >> *The showers have light bulbs  (not
>>> protected
>>> >> by any kind of panels)
>>> >> >> inside
>>> >> >> the actual stall where water could be
>>> accidentally
>>> >> splashed.  I brought
>>> >> >> this
>>> >> >> up as a concern, so they put a cover over
>>> mine, but
>>> >> mine is not the only
>>> >> >> one
>>> >> >> that this is the case with (as confirmed
>>> by other
>>> >> clients.)
>>> >> >> *Despite several complaints from many
>>> clients, the
>>> >> building is full of
>>> >> >> bugs.
>>> >> >> They say that someone comes regularly to
>>> spray, but
>>> >> bugs were found even
>>> >> >> in
>>> >> >> my room, and I am a very clean person.
>>> (read as, do
>>> >> not leave food in
>>> >> >> uncealed containers or dishes with food
>>> still on
>>> >> them etc.)
>>> >> >> *Clients are unable to have microwaves or
>>> >> refrigerators in their rooms,
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> so are reduced to coolers full of ice or
>>> nothing at
>>> >> all except cafeteria
>>> >> >> food.  There are microwaves that
>>> physically
>>> >> exist, but they do not work
>>> >> >> very
>>> >> >> well.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Now I can say that there are other things
>>> I could
>>> >> talk about, but they
>>> >> >> probably come down to personal preference
>>> and
>>> >> really are just normal
>>> >> >> inconveniences that one would encounter on
>>> any
>>> >> college dorm, except they
>>> >> >> are
>>> >> >> exaggerated because of the fact that
>>> everything is
>>> >> scaled down hugely.
>>> >> >> So
>>> >> >> while, for example, on most college
>>> campuses, you
>>> >> could go to a dining
>>> >> >> hall
>>> >> >> at almost any time of day, if you do not
>>> come to
>>> >> meals at the times
>>> >> >> specified, you don't eat meals.  I am
>>> sure
>>> >> that anyone can argue that
>>> >> >> when
>>> >> >> in school, you have to work with a
>>> particular
>>> >> schedule, and while this is
>>> >> >> true to some extent, I do take issue with
>>> the fact
>>> >> that we can't even
>>> >> >> have
>>> >> >> microwaves or refrigerators in our rooms
>>> so that we
>>> >> may maintain the
>>> >> >> schedules that are most comfortable for
>>> us.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The last thing I mention is a large thing
>>> and may
>>> >> not affect anyone, but
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> feel I must mention it, because if I did
>>> not, I
>>> >> would be doing a great
>>> >> >> disservice to anyone considering attending
>>> this
>>> >> center.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Two weeks ago this Friday, I was groped by
>>> an
>>> >> authority figure.  He was
>>> >> >> picking me up from the airport, and I was
>>> >> approaching the baggage claim
>>> >> >> with
>>> >> >> a female passenger from my flight.  This
>>> >> authority figure approached me
>>> >> >> without announcing himself, put his arm
>>> around my
>>> >> waist, hugged me to
>>> >> >> himself in a tight, possessive manner, and
>>> told the
>>> >> female passenger who
>>> >> >> had
>>> >> >> offered to walk with me that he "had it
>>> under
>>> >> control from there, but
>>> >> >> thanks."  After which, he looked down at
>>> me
>>> >> and said, "How was your trip,
>>> >> >> Punkin?  We've missed you!  We're so
>>> glad
>>> >> you're home!"
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> This man did not announce himself to me in
>>> the
>>> >> beginning, should have
>>> >> >> been
>>> >> >> treating me professionally, is old enough
>>> to be my
>>> >> father, and possibly
>>> >> >> even
>>> >> >> my grandfather, has only interacted with
>>> me
>>> >> minimally since my arrival at
>>> >> >> the center, I'm 24, etc etc etc.
>>> Basically,
>>> >> it was wayyy wayyyy beyond
>>> >> >> what
>>> >> >> one would call professional or even
>>> acceptable
>>> >> regardless of setting.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I cannot tell you whether to attend this
>>> center;
>>> >> only you can decide that
>>> >> >> for yourself.  What I can tell you is
>>> that the
>>> >> man who did this to me was
>>> >> >> reported by me, and, I have discovered,
>>> has been
>>> >> reported multiple times
>>> >> >> by
>>> >> >> other females that he has violated in one
>>> way or
>>> >> another, and still holds
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> a
>>> >> >> job here.  I believe there is something
>>> big
>>> >> going on here that I am
>>> >> >> unaware
>>> >> >> of, and am only glad to be leaving.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I have met some truly wonderful people
>>> here, but
>>> >> regardless of that, I
>>> >> >> could
>>> >> >> never suggest that someone attend here.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I hope this helps you make your
>>> decision.  If
>>> >> it does not, please know
>>> >> >> that
>>> >> >> I wish you all the best.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Amber R. Herrin
>>> >> >> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
>>> >> >> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
>>> >> >> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
>>> >> >> Impossible is not a word
>>> >> >> It's just a reason
>>> >> >> For someone not to try
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Everybody's scared to death
>>> >> >> When they decide to take that step
>>> >> >> Out on the water
>>> >> >> It'll be alright
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Life is so much more
>>> >> >> Than what your eyes are seeing
>>> >> >> You will find your way
>>> >> >> If you keep believing"
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> >> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> >> On
>>> >> >> Behalf
>>> >> >> Of Anmol Bhatia
>>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:49 PM
>>> >> >> To: National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing
>>> >> list
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> Employment
>>> >> Training Programs
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Ian,
>>> >> >> I have never attended LWSB as a trainny,
>>> but I used
>>> >> to go there on to
>>> >> >> stay
>>> >> >> during weekends in the 1990s. The only
>>> thing I can
>>> >> say is that LWSB has
>>> >> >> made
>>> >> >> alot of changes last couple of years and I
>>> would
>>> >> think about visiting
>>> >> >> there
>>> >> >> before deciding one way or the other. They
>>> do have
>>> >> an option to live off
>>> >> >> campus and as far as I am aware that there
>>> is not a
>>> >> sign in and sign out
>>> >> >> policy  after class time. Now they may
>>> have
>>> >> sign in and sign out policy
>>> >> >> during class time to keep count of
>>> attendance,
>>> >> however, this is know
>>> >> >> different signing in and signing out of
>>> work which
>>> >> everyone blind and
>>> >> >> sighted has to do.
>>> >> >> The IRS program is one of the best
>>> programs there
>>> >> and frankly since you
>>> >> >> have
>>> >> >> to be excepted for a job at one of the IRS
>>> offices,
>>> >> it is a guarantied
>>> >> >> employment after completing the program
>>> and they
>>> >> start at 45,000 or more.
>>> >> >> The food was not the greatest, however, as
>>> I said
>>> >> above LWSB now known as
>>> >> >> World Services for the Blind has made alot
>>> of
>>> >> changes under the new
>>> >> >> director
>>> >> >> and frankly I can not tell you how the
>>> food is now.
>>> >> As I said earlier, I
>>> >> >> would make a visit there before making any
>>> kind of
>>> >> decision.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Anmol
>>> >> >> I seldom think about my limitations, and
>>> they never
>>> >> make me sad. Perhaps
>>> >> >> there is just a touch of yearning at
>>> times; but it
>>> >> is vague, like a
>>> >> >> breeze
>>> >> >> among flowers.
>>> >> >> Hellen Keller
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> From: Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
>>> >> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
>>> Employment
>>> >> Training Programs
>>> >> >>> To: "National Association of Blind
>>> Students"
>>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >>> Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 4:14 PM
>>> >> >>> Hi
>>> >> >>> I’m wondering if any of you have
>>> attended
>>> >> LWSB for one of their
>>> >> >>> employment training programs, or LWSB
>>> in
>>> >> general?
>>> >> >>> I’m looking into one of the IRS
>>> programs, and
>>> >> was reading the manual,
>>> >> >>> and it seems like a very strict and
>>> structured
>>> >> environment, even
>>> >> >>> though most of the participants are
>>> adults. For
>>> >> instance, you have to
>>> >> >>> sign out if you want to go somewhere
>>> and things
>>> >> like that. Have any of
>>> >> >>> you attended LWSB? I’d love to hear
>>> what your
>>> >> experiences were. Since
>>> >> >>> I’ve been to college, it sounds like
>>> it’s
>>> >> not as independent of an
>>> >> >>> environment.
>>> >> >>> Ian
>>> >> >>>
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