[nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs

Wed Jul 18 04:48:49 UTC 2012

Hi, Josh,

Well, thank god, diversity shall be ebraced after all!At 09:35 PM 
7/17/2012, Joshua Lester wrote:
>Carly, if you had read all of my posts, you'd notice that I'm going to
>attend the LCB, next June, and stay for 9 months.
>Blessings, Joshua
>
>On 7/17/12, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
> > So, if you dig the NFB way, why not simply go to an NFB center for
> > training? I mean, why would we want a same philosophy to be
> > everywhere? Don't we claim to embrace diversity?
> > CarAt 09:08 PM 7/17/2012, you wrote:
> >>I agree.
> >>These senters should also have the NFB philosophy.
> >>Blessings, Joshua
> >>
> >>On 7/17/12, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > As I see it, the job training at this center is probably its only
> >> > strong point. You have to remember, though, that most people are going
> >> > to live on campus unless they have family or friends in Arkansas that
> >> > they can stay with, so they can commute every day. If not, what are
> >> > they going to do, find an apartment, only to vacate it in 6 months? I
> >> > don't think so, it doesn't work that way. flexible leases aren't that
> >> > easy to come by. So honestly, its a shame that the center is as badly
> >> > run as it is. I considered going there myself for the computer
> >> > networking certification, but changed my mind after hearing stories
> >> > very similar to the opinions that have been expressed here. As I said,
> >> > it's definitely a shame that this is the only center that has such a
> >> > good track record with placing the blind in profitable employment.
> >> > Other centers should exist for this purpose as well. For one place to
> >> > carry all the load is a little unfair. Considering how high the
> >> > unemployment rate for the blind is, imagine how much farther along we
> >> > would get if even several states had a center of this nature.
> >> >
> >> > On 7/17/12, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >> Anmol,
> >> >> excellent post. WSB does have a good IRS program. Also, the entrance
> >> >> requirements were on the website and I hope they still are.
> >> >> You have to have good technology skills as well as decent educational
> >> >> skills
> >> >> to get in. Since you will work for the government, they require you to
> >> >> be
> >> >> a
> >> >> US citizen, able to  pass a drug test, and be willing to relocate.
> >> >> They
> >> >> also
> >> >> find you a job after your training. I was at a job fair and know who I
> >> >> ran
> >> >> into?
> >> >> An IRS rep! He said if I wanted to get a job into that agency, going
> >> >> to
> >> >> WSB
> >> >> was a good idea. He said they get students from there all the time and
> >> >> that
> >> >> the next class containing 30 students was starting soon.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you're thinking of going, you have to weigh the pros and cons. Also,
> >> >> I
> >> >> can definitely see why rehab would send clients there; they gaurantee
> >> >> a
> >> >> job
> >> >> afterward. As Anmol said, this is appealing because more successful
> >> >> case
> >> >> closures mean they keep the funding they have.
> >> >> Ashley
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Anmol Bhatia
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:10 PM
> >> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
> >> >>
> >> >> Know Arielle I suspect WSB as a whole does not belong to any
> >> >> organization.
> >> >> They try to remain neutral and WSB actually had a table at the exhabit
> >> >> hall
> >> >> at the NFB convention. I am not a big fan of WSB to the extend that
> >> >> some
> >> >> on
> >> >> this list might think I am, however, I do not like reading some of the
> >> >> comments I read on here from people who do not necessarly know all the
> >> >> facts.
> >> >> The things Amber has mentioned are valid and credible because she is
> >> >> there
> >> >> now. If I were considering attending WSB, I would seriously take into
> >> >> consideration the things she mentioned. However, WSB does have an
> >> >> employment
> >> >> track and it is easier for Rehab Counselors to send clients to a
> >> >> training
> >> >> center which can lead to employment like the WSB rather than an
> >> >> independent
> >> >> living training center like the NFB training centers that do a good
> >> >> job
> >> >> in
> >> >> providing independent living training, but do not lead to employment.
> >> >> I
> >> >> personally understand the value of how independent living training is
> >> >> important in being successful in employment and most rehab counselors
> >> >> do
> >> >> as
> >> >> well, but we have to justify how we are spending the tax payer money
> >> >> to
> >> >> largely ignorent sighted society who do not necessarly see the value
> >> >> of
> >> >> independent training for a blind person.
> >> >> To answer the question, the IRS is a promising job that pays the
> >> >> starting
> >> >> salarry of $45,000 I think with growth opportunity. So you have to
> >> >> decide
> >> >> if
> >> >> you want to put up with some of the things mentioned: bad food,
> >> >> unclean
> >> >> building, ect for 6 to 9 months and have a good job after that.
> >> >> Anmol
> >> >> I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad.
> >> >> Perhaps
> >> >> there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a
> >> >> breeze
> >> >> among flowers.
> >> >> Hellen Keller
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment Training Programs
> >> >>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> >> >>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >>> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 6:22 PM
> >> >>> I suspect that certain students or
> >> >>> staff at WSB are ACB members and
> >> >>> try to recruit, but that the WSB itself doesn't have a
> >> >>> particular
> >> >>> organizational position.
> >> >>> Arielle
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 7/17/12, Anmol Bhatia <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > Thank you Dave for pointing out that the Little Rock
> >> >>> chapter of the NFB
> >> >>> > meets at World Services for the Blind. Josh, if
> >> >>> according to you they try so
> >> >>> > hard to recruit students to the ACB, then why do they
> >> >>> allow the NFB meet in
> >> >>> > their building and the local chapter of the ACB does
> >> >>> not meet there?
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Anmol
> >> >>> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
> >> >>> make me sad. Perhaps
> >> >>> > there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is
> >> >>> vague, like a breeze
> >> >>> > among flowers.
> >> >>> > Hellen Keller
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> From: Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >> >>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock Employment
> >> >>> Training Programs
> >> >>> >> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing
> >> >>> list"
> >> >>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >>> >> Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 12:25 PM
> >> >>> >> I'm going to attend LCB, after
> >> >>> >> graduating from college.
> >> >>> >> Blessings, Joshua
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Hello Joshua and everyone,
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >     Let' sleet her decide if she
> >> >>> >> would benefit from a complete training
> >> >>> >> > program or not. All three NFB centers have
> >> >>> >> employment-related assistance and
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > offer training in several specific areas. Have
> >> >>> you been
> >> >>> >> to an NFB center
> >> >>> >> > yourself?
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Peter Donahue
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> >> > From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> >> >>> >> > To: "National Association of Blind Students
> >> >>> mailing
> >> >>> >> list"
> >> >>> >> > <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:01 AM
> >> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> >> >>> Employment
> >> >>> >> Training Programs
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > She has the skills to take care of herself.
> >> >>> >> > She needs job training.
> >> >>> >> > Is there an NFB sponsored ATI program?
> >> >>> >> > Thanks, Joshua
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > On 7/17/12, Peter Donahue <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> Good morning everyone,
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>     LWSB, formerly the Arkansas
> >> >>> >> Enterprises for the Blind has had a long
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> checkered history concerning its treatment
> >> >>> of the
> >> >>> >> blind persons it claims
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> to
> >> >>> >> >> serve. The conditions you describe have
> >> >>> existed
> >> >>> >> there for many years. At
> >> >>> >> >> one
> >> >>> >> >> time it was accredited by the National
> >> >>> >> Accreditation Council for Agencies
> >> >>> >> >> Serving the Blind and Physically
> >> >>> Handicapped (NAC.)
> >> >>> >> Its former blind
> >> >>> >> >> director was a key figure in NAC. NAC had
> >> >>> a
> >> >>> >> reputation for condoning
> >> >>> >> >> practices that often led to blind persons
> >> >>> being
> >> >>> >> abused, mistreated, and
> >> >>> >> >> in
> >> >>> >> >> the case of sheltered workshops being paid
> >> >>> less
> >> >>> >> than the Federal minimum
> >> >>> >> >> wage. NAC'S so-called "Standards of
> >> >>> Accreditation"
> >> >>> >> failed to address
> >> >>> >> >> these
> >> >>> >> >> issues. For example the standards called
> >> >>> for the
> >> >>> >> agency's grounds to be
> >> >>> >> >> pleasant but did not require the
> >> >>> sheltered
> >> >>> >> workshops they accredited to
> >> >>> >> >> pay
> >> >>> >> >> all employees including the blind
> >> >>> employees the
> >> >>> >> Federal minimum wage.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>     In 1985 NAC held its annual
> >> >>> >> meeting in Littlerock and the NFB was
> >> >>> >> >> there
> >> >>> >> >> to "Greet" them. Both the then Arkansas
> >> >>> Enterprises
> >> >>> >> for the Blind and the
> >> >>> >> >> Arkansas School for the Blind were
> >> >>> picketed by the
> >> >>> >> NFB. While at AEB a
> >> >>> >> >> number of AEB clients told us that there
> >> >>> were
> >> >>> >> problems and that it needed
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> to
> >> >>> >> >> be investigated. I know because Mary and I
> >> >>> were on
> >> >>> >> that picket line.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>     Judging from what I've read
> >> >>> >> NAC for practical purposes is gone but
> >> >>> >> >> vestiges of its evil doings remain at
> >> >>> agencies such
> >> >>> >> as LWSB. Amber here's
> >> >>> >> >> hoping you will eventually attend an NFB
> >> >>> training
> >> >>> >> center. These centers
> >> >>> >> >> are
> >> >>> >> >> a big cut above anything else out there.
> >> >>> All the
> >> >>> >> best.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Peter Donahue
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> >> >>> >> >> To: "National Association of Blind
> >> >>> Students mailing
> >> >>> >> list"
> >> >>> >> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:33 PM
> >> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> >> >>> Employment
> >> >>> >> Training Programs
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Amber,
> >> >>> >> >> Well, my goodness. I'd have to say first
> >> >>> that I
> >> >>> >> commend your efforts in
> >> >>> >> >> sticking to the facts or trying to. I
> >> >>> think you did
> >> >>> >> a good job for
> >> >>> >> >> someone
> >> >>> >> >> who did not have a good experience.  I've
> >> >>> also
> >> >>> >> heard bad rumors about it.
> >> >>> >> >> Second, with all this publicity, I'm real
> >> >>> surprised
> >> >>> >> that
> >> >>> >> >> LWSB continues to stay open and attracting
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> >> clients it does.
> >> >>> >> >> Which program were you in? Independent
> >> >>> living? or a
> >> >>> >> job program?
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> About rules, personally signing in and out
> >> >>> doesn't
> >> >>> >> bother me. You are in
> >> >>> >> >> a
> >> >>> >> >> training setting and with this litigious
> >> >>> society,
> >> >>> >> they need to account
> >> >>> >> >> for
> >> >>> >> >> everyone. What if there was an emergency?
> >> >>> They need
> >> >>> >> to know where
> >> >>> >> >> everyone
> >> >>> >> >> is. People go missing everyday and are
> >> >>> never found.
> >> >>> >> Youwouldn't want your
> >> >>> >> >> parents or friends or family calling and
> >> >>> them
> >> >>> >> saying, oh, we do not know
> >> >>> >> >> where your son is;  he may be on campus
> >> >>> or
> >> >>> >> not.
> >> >>> >> >> The other thing about the no microwave or
> >> >>> fridge
> >> >>> >> would bother me. As a
> >> >>> >> >> college student, I enjoyed having my own
> >> >>> fridge in
> >> >>> >> my room.
> >> >>> >> >> It gave me some freedom to have a cold
> >> >>> drink or
> >> >>> >> cold snack when I wanted
> >> >>> >> >> to.
> >> >>> >> >> Since the cafeteria closed early at 7:30,
> >> >>> this was
> >> >>> >> definitely nice.
> >> >>> >> >> That seems early to me given the fact that
> >> >>> I eat
> >> >>> >> late at home; between 7
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> 8pm.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Anyway, Amber you are making a good
> >> >>> personal
> >> >>> >> decision to leave. So I wish
> >> >>> >> >> you luck in your next decision to find
> >> >>> decent
> >> >>> >> training or whatever you
> >> >>> >> >> need.
> >> >>> >> >> I don't remember your intro to us, so I'm
> >> >>> not sure
> >> >>> >> if you are a current
> >> >>> >> >> college student or recent grad.
> >> >>> >> >> If you haven't finished school, I hope you
> >> >>> can as
> >> >>> >> it opens up more doors
> >> >>> >> >> to
> >> >>> >> >> you.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Ashley
> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> >> >> From: Herrin, Amber R.
> >> >>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:36 PM
> >> >>> >> >> To: 'National Association of Blind
> >> >>> Students mailing
> >> >>> >> list'
> >> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> >> >>> Employment
> >> >>> >> Training Programs
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Ian,
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I am currently at WSB, but am planning to
> >> >>> leave on
> >> >>> >> Friday.  Here is what
> >> >>> >> >> I
> >> >>> >> >> have experienced.  I will do my best to
> >> >>> give
> >> >>> >> only facts and not color
> >> >>> >> >> those
> >> >>> >> >> facts with my opinion, though before I
> >> >>> begin, I
> >> >>> >> will clearly state that
> >> >>> >> >> if
> >> >>> >> >> you are asking for an opinion as to
> >> >>> whether or not
> >> >>> >> one should attend this
> >> >>> >> >> program in order to obtain a job, I would
> >> >>> have to
> >> >>> >> say no.  But I am not
> >> >>> >> >> you
> >> >>> >> >> or anyone else for that matter, and what I
> >> >>> have
> >> >>> >> experienced here has
> >> >>> >> >> colored
> >> >>> >> >> my opinion, and may not be very reliable.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> The facts:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> *Several students (including myself) have
> >> >>> had
> >> >>> >> valuables go missing.
> >> >>> >> >> *The food does not seem to meet health and
> >> >>> safety
> >> >>> >> codes. (just one
> >> >>> >> >> example-there are many-one evening we had
> >> >>> chicken
> >> >>> >> wings, and though the
> >> >>> >> >> outside was hot, the inside was not.  I
> >> >>> would
> >> >>> >> not mention this, except
> >> >>> >> >> this
> >> >>> >> >> is not an isolated incident.)
> >> >>> >> >> *The showers have light bulbs  (not
> >> >>> protected
> >> >>> >> by any kind of panels)
> >> >>> >> >> inside
> >> >>> >> >> the actual stall where water could be
> >> >>> accidentally
> >> >>> >> splashed.  I brought
> >> >>> >> >> this
> >> >>> >> >> up as a concern, so they put a cover over
> >> >>> mine, but
> >> >>> >> mine is not the only
> >> >>> >> >> one
> >> >>> >> >> that this is the case with (as confirmed
> >> >>> by other
> >> >>> >> clients.)
> >> >>> >> >> *Despite several complaints from many
> >> >>> clients, the
> >> >>> >> building is full of
> >> >>> >> >> bugs.
> >> >>> >> >> They say that someone comes regularly to
> >> >>> spray, but
> >> >>> >> bugs were found even
> >> >>> >> >> in
> >> >>> >> >> my room, and I am a very clean person.
> >> >>> (read as, do
> >> >>> >> not leave food in
> >> >>> >> >> uncealed containers or dishes with food
> >> >>> still on
> >> >>> >> them etc.)
> >> >>> >> >> *Clients are unable to have microwaves or
> >> >>> >> refrigerators in their rooms,
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> so are reduced to coolers full of ice or
> >> >>> nothing at
> >> >>> >> all except cafeteria
> >> >>> >> >> food.  There are microwaves that
> >> >>> physically
> >> >>> >> exist, but they do not work
> >> >>> >> >> very
> >> >>> >> >> well.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Now I can say that there are other things
> >> >>> I could
> >> >>> >> talk about, but they
> >> >>> >> >> probably come down to personal preference
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> >> really are just normal
> >> >>> >> >> inconveniences that one would encounter on
> >> >>> any
> >> >>> >> college dorm, except they
> >> >>> >> >> are
> >> >>> >> >> exaggerated because of the fact that
> >> >>> everything is
> >> >>> >> scaled down hugely.
> >> >>> >> >> So
> >> >>> >> >> while, for example, on most college
> >> >>> campuses, you
> >> >>> >> could go to a dining
> >> >>> >> >> hall
> >> >>> >> >> at almost any time of day, if you do not
> >> >>> come to
> >> >>> >> meals at the times
> >> >>> >> >> specified, you don't eat meals.  I am
> >> >>> sure
> >> >>> >> that anyone can argue that
> >> >>> >> >> when
> >> >>> >> >> in school, you have to work with a
> >> >>> particular
> >> >>> >> schedule, and while this is
> >> >>> >> >> true to some extent, I do take issue with
> >> >>> the fact
> >> >>> >> that we can't even
> >> >>> >> >> have
> >> >>> >> >> microwaves or refrigerators in our rooms
> >> >>> so that we
> >> >>> >> may maintain the
> >> >>> >> >> schedules that are most comfortable for
> >> >>> us.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> The last thing I mention is a large thing
> >> >>> and may
> >> >>> >> not affect anyone, but
> >> >>> >> >> I
> >> >>> >> >> feel I must mention it, because if I did
> >> >>> not, I
> >> >>> >> would be doing a great
> >> >>> >> >> disservice to anyone considering attending
> >> >>> this
> >> >>> >> center.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Two weeks ago this Friday, I was groped by
> >> >>> an
> >> >>> >> authority figure.  He was
> >> >>> >> >> picking me up from the airport, and I was
> >> >>> >> approaching the baggage claim
> >> >>> >> >> with
> >> >>> >> >> a female passenger from my flight.  This
> >> >>> >> authority figure approached me
> >> >>> >> >> without announcing himself, put his arm
> >> >>> around my
> >> >>> >> waist, hugged me to
> >> >>> >> >> himself in a tight, possessive manner, and
> >> >>> told the
> >> >>> >> female passenger who
> >> >>> >> >> had
> >> >>> >> >> offered to walk with me that he "had it
> >> >>> under
> >> >>> >> control from there, but
> >> >>> >> >> thanks."  After which, he looked down at
> >> >>> me
> >> >>> >> and said, "How was your trip,
> >> >>> >> >> Punkin?  We've missed you!  We're so
> >> >>> glad
> >> >>> >> you're home!"
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> This man did not announce himself to me in
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> >> beginning, should have
> >> >>> >> >> been
> >> >>> >> >> treating me professionally, is old enough
> >> >>> to be my
> >> >>> >> father, and possibly
> >> >>> >> >> even
> >> >>> >> >> my grandfather, has only interacted with
> >> >>> me
> >> >>> >> minimally since my arrival at
> >> >>> >> >> the center, I'm 24, etc etc etc.
> >> >>> Basically,
> >> >>> >> it was wayyy wayyyy beyond
> >> >>> >> >> what
> >> >>> >> >> one would call professional or even
> >> >>> acceptable
> >> >>> >> regardless of setting.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I cannot tell you whether to attend this
> >> >>> center;
> >> >>> >> only you can decide that
> >> >>> >> >> for yourself.  What I can tell you is
> >> >>> that the
> >> >>> >> man who did this to me was
> >> >>> >> >> reported by me, and, I have discovered,
> >> >>> has been
> >> >>> >> reported multiple times
> >> >>> >> >> by
> >> >>> >> >> other females that he has violated in one
> >> >>> way or
> >> >>> >> another, and still holds
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> a
> >> >>> >> >> job here.  I believe there is something
> >> >>> big
> >> >>> >> going on here that I am
> >> >>> >> >> unaware
> >> >>> >> >> of, and am only glad to be leaving.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I have met some truly wonderful people
> >> >>> here, but
> >> >>> >> regardless of that, I
> >> >>> >> >> could
> >> >>> >> >> never suggest that someone attend here.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I hope this helps you make your
> >> >>> decision.  If
> >> >>> >> it does not, please know
> >> >>> >> >> that
> >> >>> >> >> I wish you all the best.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Amber R. Herrin
> >> >>> >> >> Mobile: (513) 593-5855
> >> >>> >> >> E-mail: herrinar at muohio.edu
> >> >>> >> >> "It doesn't matter what you've heard
> >> >>> >> >> Impossible is not a word
> >> >>> >> >> It's just a reason
> >> >>> >> >> For someone not to try
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Everybody's scared to death
> >> >>> >> >> When they decide to take that step
> >> >>> >> >> Out on the water
> >> >>> >> >> It'll be alright
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Life is so much more
> >> >>> >> >> Than what your eyes are seeing
> >> >>> >> >> You will find your way
> >> >>> >> >> If you keep believing"
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> >> >> From: nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> >>> >> [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> >> >>> >> On
> >> >>> >> >> Behalf
> >> >>> >> >> Of Anmol Bhatia
> >> >>> >> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:49 PM
> >> >>> >> >> To: National Association of Blind Students
> >> >>> mailing
> >> >>> >> list
> >> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> >> >>> Employment
> >> >>> >> Training Programs
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Ian,
> >> >>> >> >> I have never attended LWSB as a trainny,
> >> >>> but I used
> >> >>> >> to go there on to
> >> >>> >> >> stay
> >> >>> >> >> during weekends in the 1990s. The only
> >> >>> thing I can
> >> >>> >> say is that LWSB has
> >> >>> >> >> made
> >> >>> >> >> alot of changes last couple of years and I
> >> >>> would
> >> >>> >> think about visiting
> >> >>> >> >> there
> >> >>> >> >> before deciding one way or the other. They
> >> >>> do have
> >> >>> >> an option to live off
> >> >>> >> >> campus and as far as I am aware that there
> >> >>> is not a
> >> >>> >> sign in and sign out
> >> >>> >> >> policy  after class time. Now they may
> >> >>> have
> >> >>> >> sign in and sign out policy
> >> >>> >> >> during class time to keep count of
> >> >>> attendance,
> >> >>> >> however, this is know
> >> >>> >> >> different signing in and signing out of
> >> >>> work which
> >> >>> >> everyone blind and
> >> >>> >> >> sighted has to do.
> >> >>> >> >> The IRS program is one of the best
> >> >>> programs there
> >> >>> >> and frankly since you
> >> >>> >> >> have
> >> >>> >> >> to be excepted for a job at one of the IRS
> >> >>> offices,
> >> >>> >> it is a guarantied
> >> >>> >> >> employment after completing the program
> >> >>> and they
> >> >>> >> start at 45,000 or more.
> >> >>> >> >> The food was not the greatest, however, as
> >> >>> I said
> >> >>> >> above LWSB now known as
> >> >>> >> >> World Services for the Blind has made alot
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> >> changes under the new
> >> >>> >> >> director
> >> >>> >> >> and frankly I can not tell you how the
> >> >>> food is now.
> >> >>> >> As I said earlier, I
> >> >>> >> >> would make a visit there before making any
> >> >>> kind of
> >> >>> >> decision.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Anmol
> >> >>> >> >> I seldom think about my limitations, and
> >> >>> they never
> >> >>> >> make me sad. Perhaps
> >> >>> >> >> there is just a touch of yearning at
> >> >>> times; but it
> >> >>> >> is vague, like a
> >> >>> >> >> breeze
> >> >>> >> >> among flowers.
> >> >>> >> >> Hellen Keller
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> --- On Mon, 7/16/12, Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>> From: Ian Perrault <iperrault at hotmail.com>
> >> >>> >> >>> Subject: [nabs-l] LWSB Little Rock
> >> >>> Employment
> >> >>> >> Training Programs
> >> >>> >> >>> To: "National Association of Blind
> >> >>> Students"
> >> >>> >> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> >> >>> >> >>> Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 4:14 PM
> >> >>> >> >>> Hi
> >> >>> >> >>> I'm wondering if any of you have
> >> >>> attended
> >> >>> >> LWSB for one of their
> >> >>> >> >>> employment training programs, or LWSB
> >> >>> in
> >> >>> >> general?
> >> >>> >> >>> I'm looking into one of the IRS
> >> >>> programs, and
> >> >>> >> was reading the manual,
> >> >>> >> >>> and it seems like a very strict and
> >> >>> structured
> >> >>> >> environment, even
> >> >>> >> >>> though most of the participants are
> >> >>> adults. For
> >> >>> >> instance, you have to
> >> >>> >> >>> sign out if you want to go somewhere
> >> >>> and things
> >> >>> >> like that. Have any of
> >> >>> >> >>> you attended LWSB? I'd love to hear
> >> >>> what your
> >> >>> >> experiences were. Since
> >> >>> >> >>> I've been to college, it sounds like
> >> >>> it's
> >> >>> >> not as independent of an
> >> >>> >> >>> environment.
> >> >>> >> >>> Ian
> >> >>> >> >>>
> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>> >> >>> oo.com
> >> >>> >> >>>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
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> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
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> >> >>> >> >>
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> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
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> >> 
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> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
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> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
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